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In Reply to: RE: Not my cuppa. Probably not flexible enuf to ingress and egress! ^ posted by Road Warrior on May 16, 2015 at 12:21:29
... When we were buying my wife's car, an XF Jaguar, we were talking to the dealer and one of our kids 'found' an Aston Martin Vantage. He was sitting in the driver's seat and I told him to get out. Of course the dealer was saying no, no, no, he is fine.
Then, of course, the dealer is telling me I should sit in it. I'm like, no, no, no, I am not interested. Then my son started on me and then my wife said I should at least sit in in.
I remember, the roof of this thing is like only 49 inches high and I'm 6'2". It was actually surprisingly easy to get into although I wouldn't want to be doing it all the time. It was extremely comfortable for my physique with loads of leg room and the contoured seat adjusted well to my body. (for me a comfortable seat is one of the major priorities in buying a car - ingress & egress is the other) Whilst sitting in the drivers seat I could actually quite easily put my hand on the ground with only a slight lean.
Getting out ? I had to kind or roll out almost on my knees to get up. No way I could do that on a regular basis. It being about a $400K car might be a slight consideration as well. :)
I'm not as ancient as you Roadie but being tallish is not a good match with some super cars.
I'm happy with my big Kraut-mobile which even a Sumo wrestler can easily get in & out of.
d:o)
Smile
Sox
Follow Ups:
I once took my 6'3" neighbor of than about 65 years for a ride in my S-2000.
Even with the top DOWN, I thought I was going to have to get him Surgically Removed.
Yes, at some point, certain cars just get too tough to enter and exit.
Too much is never enough
thoughts on it (if not too much trouble)? Also, what's your big car? We're just kinda bouncing around with the better Japanese premium models ever 3 or 4 years and I'm trying to plan ahead.
Thankee
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"E Burres Stigano?"
... They are a great car.
If you change cars a lot I don't know how they hold up for resale if that is an issue for you. I don't think along those lines but I know many people do.
If you are going new I'd recommend the 6 cylinder twin turbo diesel with the 8 speed ZF transmission. The caveat is I have not driven the new 4 cylinder models. But the diesel is awesome, lots of torque. It just depends on what type of hoon, oops, I mean driver, your wife is. :)
Oh, I think they look best and handle best with the 20" rims with '35' profile rubber. I think a big improvement over the 18" rims.
If you are going used, I'd still try to find an 8 speed over the original 6 speeds. (not that there is anything wrong with the 6 speed, it is just the 8 speed is an awesome transmission.
The petrol (gas to you) eights are all good but I suspect unnecessary. Of course I have no idea of the pricing points over there of the different models. These types of cars are way more expensive here than there. Though the XF has come down in price by about 30% here from when it was first released (mainly due to it being an inflated price to start with)
A 'similar' car to the XF is the Audi A7/S7 but I think the Jag is a better bet.
I have an Aussie Ford as my town car and my nice car is an S Class Mercedes.
The only Japanese 'luxury' sedan I'd buy, not that I want one as it is a bit small for me, is the Honda Legend... I think that is 'Acura' in Uncle Sam Land.
Of course, YMMV.
Good luck :)
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Sox
I can't justify getting a new one this year but next is a possibility. I'll go Gas, not Diesel. She doesn't want diesel. I'm onboard with that. Thnx for the input Soxy. Now if y'all only had a Trader Joes I could recommend an $18 Italian Amarone that would flat out amaze you at its price point! BTW, those Jags start at $46k here but by the time you dressed them up properly you'd be close to $60K I imagine.
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"E Burres Stigano?"
... It only highlights the huge price differential.
Yeah, you'd probably take a bath on flogging (or getting out of the lease) the two year old car with low miles on it. You really need your car to be properly structured into your business tax plans if you are going to turn them over every two years.
I just had a quick squizz so I will give you some rough comparisons which highlight how much we pay compared to you guys.
The cheapest four cylinder XF Jag here is about {$75K Au/$60K USD} drive away. The speced-up six cylinder portfolio XF is about {$122K Au/$98K USD} drive away.
The top of the line XF before you add some goodies is about {$235K Au/$189K USD}
If you think the above is bad enough a 2015 S500/550 Mercedes will make your eyes water.
Here they start at about {$305K Au/$245K USD} drive away versus a starting drive away price in Uncle Sam Land of $95K USD
Ok, other than all that waffle, *if* you go down the XF path I think you will enjoy the Jaguar. It is a really nice car, drives well, it is well appointed in a classy understated manner and relatively trouble free.
Oh, don't start me on grog!
Cheers mate.
Smile
Sox
Here in the states, the S-class has VERY high depreciation and I'd NEVER buy one new.
one of MANY articles on automotive depreciation. Some agreement found on some Jags, the Mas (ouch!) and Cadillac. S-class makes a LOT of lists. You can buy a MAYBACK for about 70% off original retail.
Too much is never enough
Edits: 05/19/15
...Most folks here lease an S class because it is the most efficient/affordable manner to own one. Matters not if you are me or a billionaire, leasing is the way to go in most circumstances. You can buy it outright but you lose a lot of tax benefits for doing so.
Have a squizz;
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Sox
Where I come from, a Saloon is someplace to have a DRINK.
I simply Can Not imagine spending that kind of loot on a depreciating asset. Keep in mind that I remember when a BMW 2002 sold for 3000$ (US) which would be about 1970.
To snap it into better focus, the original Acura auto had a small V-6 and was a Very nice ride, indeed.
Fast Forward just a few years and compare that to the Honda Accord. For the SAME price, forget inflation. You get more power. ABS. Better Crash performance. And a HOST of other features, added to every model year. Even the entry level models now come with a backup camera.
If I were 'gifted' with a nice, upscale car? Maybe a couple year old BMW 6 series? A 5 series Merc equipped to M level, but without the M power plant. I've seen 'em. Or perhaps a couple year old Lexus 4xx? Let somebody else have it for the first 30,000 miles and eat the biggest blast of depreciation.
Too much is never enough
Better value, as long as car was maintained properly.
I thought the price I mentioned might have been for a 4 cyl as I simply looked at the price w/o reviewing how it was equipped. I just spent a minute or 2 Googling and it looks like you can get a decently equipped 6 cyl new in the $50-$60K range. I may be missing something tho as I'm not going to get serious about this until next year's commission checks start (hopefully) coming in.
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"E Burres Stigano?"
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