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In Reply to: RE: Who said "bridge"? posted by 21536 on April 27, 2015 at 07:02:59
You're getting off topic. We were discussing train suicides, not Morrocan earthquakes and feeding rats.
Bridges, berms, tunnels and the like may be of some use for those that do not possess the mental acuity to stay off a train track, however, if a person decides to commit suicide in front of a train there is really nothing to stop them.
It is tragic when someone is killed or injured from a train collision as a result of equipment failure (brakes, steering), or plain old not paying attention. I have co workers that have hit everything from cars, semi trucks, pedestrians, cattle - you name it. It's all tragic.
So we are all supposed to feel sorry for these Asian kids that have it so Fu&@ing bad because they got a "B" on a physics exam?
Maybe these kids should go to the St. Judes Children's Hospital website and peruse that for a while. After they see a 8 year old kid with stage 4 cancer and a bald head desperately trying to see 9 years of age, maybe they won't feel so sorry for themselves.
Suicide at best is a premeditated act of selfishness, however, when these people choose to involve innocent people in there selfishness, it's criminal.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
Follow Ups:
Your anger is completely understandable. Unless I'm mistaken, the railroads pretty much take the position that they have to cover their @sses, and assume the whole thing was the employees' fault on the train. Off they all go for the obligatory drug test, and pity the poor sap who smoked a doobie with his buddies on the weekend, even if he was deadheading at the time. And even if you're squeaky clean, your record is marred, not to mention your psyche.While you're not wrong about the selfishness, however, I think it might be more accurate to say that the impacts on others don't intrude on their awareness than to say they have no regard for them.
Some time ago, I had an exchange with an inmate about this same subject. Said inmate stated that he had always thought about the consequences to others when contemplating self destruction, and I told him that proved that he wasn't too far gone. I suspect that all a suicide sees is a massively potent means of instant (and hopefully painless) destruction. I think all they see is a train, and it never occurs to them that there are people on that train who will be severely traumatized by their actions. I just don't think it's on their radar.
FWIW, however, I'd observe that hardening your heart against those poor kids harms you far more than it does them. Doing so is a habit that's far too easy to fall into when you're repeatedly hurt by the actions of others, and once formed, it's a very difficult habit to break. I can attest that the consequences of not breaking it far exceed any price a person would want to pay.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Edits: 04/27/15
Todd;
Thank you for your reasoned response.
You obviously know a railroader, as you have the vernacular down.
You are correct in that the first order of business post accident is the drug and alcohol test. Next the tapes are downloaded, then you are given a few days off (trauma). The railroads used to hold this against you, however, it was ruled that they no longer can.
As far as hardening ones feelings toward the ones that commit suicide - it's to be expected.
As to them having a look a the St. Judes Children's Hospital website to gain some perspective and realizing just how fortunate they are - I'll stand by that comment any day all day.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
Adios
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