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In Reply to: RE: Can we have a GMO discussion? posted by Awe-d-o-file on November 16, 2014 at 09:13:32
GMO is a funny subject, which generally elicits NO laughter.
Does ANYBODY know where Corn came from? Didn't think so. Man has been modifying that plant for so long, nobody knows what the original plant was.
But the REAL problem is something called 'monoculture' where a SINGLE cultivar is what is grown. Right now, in Mexico, I've seen 10 or more DIFFERENT kinds of corn. White? Yellow? BLACK? Multi-colored? (Indian corn). All are a little different and few are susceptible to the bugs which attack another type of corn.
The problem is when you grow ALL or MOSTLY one kind of plant. A single bug can go thru the ENTIRE population and wipe you out.
I like having variety. All the different corns I've tried are all a little different. I LIKE that.
Too much is never enough
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...besides huge government subsidies to plant it, as it and high fructose corn syrup become a greater portion of our diets very year, Monsanto owns most of the seeds and requires farmers to buy new ones every year.
That's a problem with GMOs.
I TRIED to keep out of the political end of things. Like when (it may have been?) Monsanto SUED farmers in adjacent fields when the GMO corn POLINATED some of the stuff in the NEXT field over, producing yet ANOTHER variety of corn.
And if you want to talk about 'the corn wars', just bring up ALCOHOL made from corn and how inefficient it is as an additional source of energy. It DOES work as a gas 'extender', but I've since gone over to one of the 'Majors' middle grade. Running that fuel in my Element resulted in OVER a 28mpg run of over 1200 miles. About 41 gallons. My car never ran properly on the stuff from the big box (tank?) store.
I run high test during the hightest temps of summer and regular in the coldest month(s) of winter.
Most people don't know that Regular fuel actually has a higher energy content than higher octane fuel.
Too much is never enough
Wow - I've got one, though it's a wheelchair conversion Element. One the highway we can get around 25 or a bit better if we keep the speed under 65, but in the city it's a LOT lower. Where did you get this magic alcohol/petrol?
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I AVERAGED about 28.3 for OVER 1200 miles.
I left Oceanside CA and went straight over 15 and caught 395 north. They are gradually making that ALL 4 lane, but it is still a lot of just 2 lane. You go thru such neat older towns as Lone Pine and Bishop. You also pass Mono Lake and Manzanar. Actually, you could spend a WEEK on just that 400 or so miles, having everything from Bristlecone pine 'forest' to several interesting Hot Springs.
I drove around in Reno for a couple days, up to Virginia City than returned via I80 down thru Sacramento and than South on 5. HUGE traffic jam in Stockton due to having virtually the entire Freeway tore up. That cost me maybe 45 additional minutes. The traffic jam in LA was bad, but not as bad as Stockton, all things considered. At least I knew LA jam was coming!
I averaged a good speed. Maybe 60+ or so, with Cruise set on about 71 or 72. I kept it in as high as gear as it'd take even though Honda claims to have a 'smart' automatic. I'd let speed sluff off going uphill trying to stay in top gear. Sometimes, it was just NOT possible and you'd end up in 3rd or 4th. No overheating issues.
BTW, I used nothing BUT Chevron mid-grade fuel. I filled 4 times, including about 5 miles from my house on the return voyage. My average was about +-1mpg, which is amazing.
I thought I had an excel spreadsheet but I can't find it.
Too much is never enough
...Chevron gas.
Every since I worked at a Chevron station pumping gas in 1965 in SoCal, car guys have said it's the best.
Here we get discounts on it through grocery purchases at Safeway - up to $0.20/gal.
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