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I'm asking this sincerely as I don't see it as political. As we know you can politicize anything if you want.
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Although man has been genetically modifying food for thousands of years this business of producing seeds that grow plants that are resistant to pesticides that are produced by the same company that make the seed is insidious in my book. Another thing I don’t like is the fact that farmers can’t save their seeds and have to buy new seed every year and can be sued if they don’t, it’s preposterous. How can you paten one of natures creations?
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
You can't, but you can patent a modification to nature's creations if you can prove the modification is novel, non-obvious and has utility.
I'm not arguing with your overall objection to the impact on farmers, but it's the genetic modification, I believe, that is patented, not the natural genome of the food substance.
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nt
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
At least as far as health impact. I get the objection to the intellectual property protection and law suits.
I should read up on the issue more, but would welcome the bullet point summary on what frightens people so much about it.
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GMO is a funny subject, which generally elicits NO laughter.
Does ANYBODY know where Corn came from? Didn't think so. Man has been modifying that plant for so long, nobody knows what the original plant was.
But the REAL problem is something called 'monoculture' where a SINGLE cultivar is what is grown. Right now, in Mexico, I've seen 10 or more DIFFERENT kinds of corn. White? Yellow? BLACK? Multi-colored? (Indian corn). All are a little different and few are susceptible to the bugs which attack another type of corn.
The problem is when you grow ALL or MOSTLY one kind of plant. A single bug can go thru the ENTIRE population and wipe you out.
I like having variety. All the different corns I've tried are all a little different. I LIKE that.
Too much is never enough
...besides huge government subsidies to plant it, as it and high fructose corn syrup become a greater portion of our diets very year, Monsanto owns most of the seeds and requires farmers to buy new ones every year.
That's a problem with GMOs.
I TRIED to keep out of the political end of things. Like when (it may have been?) Monsanto SUED farmers in adjacent fields when the GMO corn POLINATED some of the stuff in the NEXT field over, producing yet ANOTHER variety of corn.
And if you want to talk about 'the corn wars', just bring up ALCOHOL made from corn and how inefficient it is as an additional source of energy. It DOES work as a gas 'extender', but I've since gone over to one of the 'Majors' middle grade. Running that fuel in my Element resulted in OVER a 28mpg run of over 1200 miles. About 41 gallons. My car never ran properly on the stuff from the big box (tank?) store.
I run high test during the hightest temps of summer and regular in the coldest month(s) of winter.
Most people don't know that Regular fuel actually has a higher energy content than higher octane fuel.
Too much is never enough
Wow - I've got one, though it's a wheelchair conversion Element. One the highway we can get around 25 or a bit better if we keep the speed under 65, but in the city it's a LOT lower. Where did you get this magic alcohol/petrol?
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I AVERAGED about 28.3 for OVER 1200 miles.
I left Oceanside CA and went straight over 15 and caught 395 north. They are gradually making that ALL 4 lane, but it is still a lot of just 2 lane. You go thru such neat older towns as Lone Pine and Bishop. You also pass Mono Lake and Manzanar. Actually, you could spend a WEEK on just that 400 or so miles, having everything from Bristlecone pine 'forest' to several interesting Hot Springs.
I drove around in Reno for a couple days, up to Virginia City than returned via I80 down thru Sacramento and than South on 5. HUGE traffic jam in Stockton due to having virtually the entire Freeway tore up. That cost me maybe 45 additional minutes. The traffic jam in LA was bad, but not as bad as Stockton, all things considered. At least I knew LA jam was coming!
I averaged a good speed. Maybe 60+ or so, with Cruise set on about 71 or 72. I kept it in as high as gear as it'd take even though Honda claims to have a 'smart' automatic. I'd let speed sluff off going uphill trying to stay in top gear. Sometimes, it was just NOT possible and you'd end up in 3rd or 4th. No overheating issues.
BTW, I used nothing BUT Chevron mid-grade fuel. I filled 4 times, including about 5 miles from my house on the return voyage. My average was about +-1mpg, which is amazing.
I thought I had an excel spreadsheet but I can't find it.
Too much is never enough
...Chevron gas.
Every since I worked at a Chevron station pumping gas in 1965 in SoCal, car guys have said it's the best.
Here we get discounts on it through grocery purchases at Safeway - up to $0.20/gal.
-- as a guy who made his living on the backs of genetically modified little organism (Chinese hamster ovary cells in culture transfected with recombinant human DNA to make therapeutic proteins) -- i.e., biotechnology.
I'm good with it.
all the best,
mrh
Did you work at Genzyme? I worked on a number of their deals, but not since their acquisition.
CHO is good, but don't overlook the milk of transgenic rabbits as a wonderful source of [therapeutic] protein! (or not)
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Medical technology is one thing. Messing with our food supply is a serious issue, with potentially grave consequences.
P.S. Thalidomide seemed like a great idea 50 years ago...
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Freak out...Far out...In out....
nt
all the best,
mrh
GMO's are scary stuff that IMHO could lead to the destruction of our food sources and ultimately the sustainability of life.
Salmon DNA in strawberries to make them redder? No thanks!!!
Products don't have to be identified as GMO, so the consumer doesn't know what they are buying.
We grow as much of our produce as possible, organically, and don't eat meat.
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Freak out...Far out...In out....
Some years ago I saw an interview with someone who was billed as world-leading nutritionist.
He said he'd eat anything... as long as it has been part of the human food chain for at least 150 years.
A sensible position to take IMO.
just the kind of post I'd like to see. It is scary and animal feed is really bad too. The solution really is not to eat meat. Chickens when given the choice of GMO or non GMO food always choose the non GMO and that includes switching the containers each was previously in.
Even if every state or the Feds required labeling some companies will lie
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