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In Reply to: RE: New CA college sex law, "Yes means yes!" posted by mkuller on September 29, 2014 at 08:15:34
Fucker's Remorse. Waking up and finding out that they screwed some guy the night before they will often feel such guilt and shame that they will claim they said no.
Not really a fault considering the Puritan Ethic that still runs deep in this country.
Violence=good....sex=naughty.
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How about waking up and find that you got married?
This is no shit. A navy buddy in Charleston hit the beach (went into town) got plastered at a waterfront bar, and married to a bar hog. Couldn't remember the specifics (no kidding?), but had the ring. He swapped duty the following night to go back and piece it together. It was true.
It took him a full month to undo the deal. He wasn't much fun after that.
I do not mind being older.
I think they made a movie called The Hangover based on your buddy's experience! :-)
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"If you are the owner of a new stereophonic system, this record will play with even more brilliant true-to-life fidelity. In short, you can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future."
...but not to me.
And things have changed since 40 years ago.
Apparently you have no daughters.
You're being a bit too harsh man.
The first time i got laid was freshman year of college and we had both been out for dinner, a movie and then drinks. The booze was part of the overall evening, and we were certainly buzzed, though not smashed, when we fucked. But fucking was going to happen either way. We were in a new relationship and horny as hell, but yeah, the drinking emboldened both of us. Actually, more me than her, as she was a sophomore and, errr, more experienced.
Under this law, I could have been arrested even though it was a beautiful thing and I'll never forget it. Luckily, she was a sweetie and while we didn't end up together as a couple for long, we remained friends. But what if she'd be a bit psychotic and decided she'd lie report me and I admitted that we'd each had a few beers? Scary.
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"If you are the owner of a new stereophonic system, this record will play with even more brilliant true-to-life fidelity. In short, you can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future."
"Apparently you have no daughters."
What if young women were to exercise some common sense by not getting falling down drunk with young men they hardly know? And what if after a few drinks said women were to go back to their dorm and sleep in their own bed? Personal responsibility anyone?
Getting blind drink and thereby rendering oneself defenseless with a young man is both stupid and dangerous. Where is that fierce feminist independence we used to hear so much about? Aren’t today’s young **women** capable of exercising a bit of prudent foresight so as to avoid such vulnerable circumstances? Or are they merely the dumb pieces of fluff so easily manipulated as male chauvinists would have us believe?
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Tawana Brawley? That one cost Reverend Al a few bucks, didn't it? This silly law will only guarantee more such false allegations.
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of denial?
"Snippet: Any honest veteran sex assault investigator will tell you that rape is one of the most falsely reported crimes that there is. A command officer in the Denver Police sex assaults unit recently told me he placed the false rape numbers at approximately 45 percent. Objective studies have confirmed this. See Purdue Professor Kanin’s nine-year study published in 1994 concluding that over 40 percent of rape allegations were demonstrably false."
...so you can name 2, and the Duke players sexually abused the women but didn't rape them.
If one in five women have been sexually abused, how many men who were the perpetrators have gone free.
Millions.
So how do you propose to teach men that no consent is rape?
"and the Duke players sexually abused the women but didn't rape them."
Where did you get that?
Snippet: "The district attorney withdrew from the case, resigned and was disbarred.
"The North Carolina attorney general took over the case, and after a 12-week examination he dropped all charges against the defendants. Evans, who was indicted the day after he graduated from Duke, said the case Mangum brought against him and the other defendants had taken them "to hell and back."
"No other witness confirms her story," Atty. Gen. Roy Cooper said at a crowded news conference. "Other evidence contradicts her story. She contradicts herself."
...when is rape the victim's fault?
Never.
Poor judgement or alcohol are no excuse.
"when is rape the victim's fault?"
That would depend on your definition of rape.
Snippet: "Under the bill, someone who is drunk, drugged, unconscious or asleep cannot grant consent."
We would agree on three of the four. But who determines (the next day or the following month)) if the young lady was indeed drunk? Moreover, does "drunk" in this case mean that she was merely tipsy, a tiny bit over the legal limit? If so, then she can claim "rape" the next morning even if she initiated the sexual contact and enthusiastically participated to its end.
That scenario is absurd and in no way constitutes rape. Perhaps I'm missing something, but according to the quote above, under this silly law our hypothetical young lady can ruin a young man’s life under the scenario I’ve just described. Once again liberals have overreached. This puts young men on the wrong end of a “Heads I win tails you lose” environment when it comes to the opposite sex.
And how long does the young woman have to come forward and make her allegation? Months? Years? One can easily imagine a situation in which the sex on the evening in question was consensual and mutually blissful….until the young man dumps her for another girl. At which point the “rape” allegation is made because the girl is bitter and an eyewitness saw them sharing a bottle of cheap Chianti. Yet another poorly conceived law fraught with potential problems.
...better keep it in your pants :-)
but I did make other men's daughters my own...if you get my drift.
A belated thanks to all those long gone dads.
...and no doubt on domestic violence, they were asking for it.
are you out of your mind? I have no idea why you pulled that out of your butt.
However I have found that all women I have met have a sex drive to one extreme or another and are not shy about expressing that. Getting them drunk or ripped on drugs has never been part of my style if you will.
I think doing that to college kids is dead wrong, with a little charm and decorum they will fall into bed without the outside and unworthy use of booze/dope.
And no daughter is outside that potential although Dads are loathe to recognize that. Denial, not my angel, she is different etc etc...
...it's about respect for women.Your gloating post above didn't exhibit any.
Edits: 09/29/14
I have always respected them enough not to get them drunk in order to get laid. I found it was not necessary nor needed. All were nice girls who were brought up in stable homes and whose daddy never would have thought they were capable of hard raw sex. Daddy's do not have a clue...
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Exactly.I've read that many women actually do have rape fantasies. Unfortunately, if a women is that crazy nothing's going to stop her from blaming you in order to make herself feel better about herself the very next morning.
The old bait and switch routine..?
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