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In Reply to: RE: Ahhhhmmm, they are likley justb for decoration - although the big long one might not be posted by Inmate51 on September 16, 2014 at 15:19:18
Back in the early 1990s.I've also added an extra link where Chris goes into great detail about the organ as it is now.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 09/16/14 09/16/14 09/16/14 09/16/14Follow Ups:
While scanning your post, it seemed that you were claiming the idea for the organ in the hall (Sydney Town Hall) which was being discussed was yours. To the casual reader, it was not obvious that you were talking about an entirely different facility.I'll add that I've now read the article by Chris Erskine (2002), and there is no mention of a Tim Bailey birthing the idea of a combination pipe/electronic organ. In fact, from the beginning of the article:
"The combination organ - part electronic, part pipe - has finally arrived in Australia. Although relatively common in the USA,"
Relatively common in the USA. Apparently, this combination has been used by organ makers for years.
To proclaim "The original idea for this was mine!" is a major mis-representation. Maybe the notion to consider it (using a MIDI connection) was new to you, but then-current practice - as had been previously implemented multiple times - was much more advanced than your idea.
Edits: 09/17/14
Chris Erskine used to drive me in, in the colder months, to Sunday choir practice held for an hour before 10 AM service, allowing Patricia to drive in on her own, and not have to sit in a running car with the heater on, for an hour.Chris has driven the whole organ thing at St Pauls for as long as I can remember, and has personally paid for some if the work. One Sundday we were discussing the limited range of the existing organ in the 'new' organ / choir loft. Due to the restricted height in the organ loft there is not enough room for putting in long pedal-reeds, to play the two or three lowest notes.
On a subsequent trip? I told Chris about my own plans for subs. And, that it might be possible to link the console's pedals to amplifiers via some interface, he could use sub-woofers.
I was about to buy cardboard form-work tubes to build subs for use at home here. One of matching diametre to a 12inch woofer and an outer one whose remaining area would match that of the inner tube? As suggested by Nelson Pass IIRC, or Dave Dlugos?
But when Patricia saw them in the garage she put her foot down, and we compromised on big ELF enclosures using the outer tubes.
Similar TL items might have solved the path-length Vs height problem in the organ loft, but would have taken up quite a lot of floor area, especially if built to take 15s or 18s! Chris was not keen on their size, nor appearance!
I was very busy with my work and suggested to Chris that he ask organ makers, musical instrument folk, and Professional Audio types about the idea of subs and gave him some contacts.
As we can see he found he could add lots of capabilities not just pedal reed bass. Apart from those original conversations I had every little to do with the project. But I promoted and supported it within the parish particularly the dependent extension of the building. Neither of us were aware of these marvellous possibilities.
Your assumptions or opinions are grounded in your own knowledge of what's possible and doesn't engage with the reality that neither Chris or I were aware of the possibilities, way back when.
To me it is a good example of 'leaping to judgement', even perhaps an a-priori judgement?
Perhaps you could try to read less 'casually,' and just as important, to leap to judgement less often.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 09/17/14 09/17/14
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