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In Reply to: RE: Tim, what's the derivation of "pom"? nt posted by free.ranger on August 29, 2014 at 14:44:21
Pomegranate, pink faced? Depends on who you ask. Prisoner of Mother England?
Australian English term for Any English person, often extended to the Welsh and Cornish. The Irish are 'Micks and Orangemen pricks', and the Scots are just ..... the Scots!
"And when I get to London, I do, I do
I'll go down to Trafalgar Square
and say to old Lord Nelson,
get stuffed, get stuffed,
you one-eyed Pommy bastard!!!!!" avec rallentando on the last word!
Yes, it has a tune, though what it's called I don't know, but I could sing it for you!
:-)!
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Follow Ups:
the Scots are known as 'Jocks' in the UK while the Welsh are Taffys and the Irish Micks or Paddys.
In return these nations tend to refer to the people from south-eastern England as 'C**ts'.
Which seems fair considering the history.
...YouTube so we can all enjoy it. Hmmm, I would even go on Facebook for that.
Later Gator,
Dave
Hey, I know nuthin'.
Especially one's served at cellar temperature. No not warm, but COOL, and not filling-shrinking freezing.Lovely with curries and anything chillie hot.
Don't hate Lagers, but ...... most mainstream Aussie Lagers are plain awful. Not bitter, too sweet. Most places serve their beer way too cold
XXXX by Castlemain is a good main-stream lager.
I plain love Pilsner Urquell.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Edits: 08/29/14
Pilsener Urquell is one of my three favourite beers!
The other two are Budweiser (the one made in Budovice, formerly known as Budweis) and Einbecker Urbock.
Also Weihenstephan make a decent wheat beer but so they should, they've been practising for the last 1200 years.
So there's a lot of overpriced crap about, no?
IF you don't like the various British ales nor the Belgian ones? You still might want to see if you can find Coopers Sparkling Ale in a decent bottleoh in London, or their Pale Ale.
Your (UK) Beer Hunter, Michael Jackson calls their Sparkling Ale - 'the champagne of beers'. You _can_ serve a Coopers ale a little colder then British ales. There are two ways to pour it, both are the same but you can also turn the bottle to distribute the remains of the yeast cells beforehand.
Personally, I don't think it enhances the yeastiness which is a quite strong flavour component anyway, and it ruins the lovely copper colour. It is very well hopped, too! Tassie hops.
Not quite as strong as some very strong British Ales.
All of Coopers ales (bar one new) IIRC are made on lees in the bottle, and sold with the lees still in the bottle. No riddling / remuage and degorgement is applied.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Well I do live in the UK however I am german born and bred so by default I grew up with and generally prefer lager. Unfortunately Red Stripe (jamaican and brewed here under license) is the only drinkable lager produced in the UK. Even the british-made licensed Löwenbräu is rubbish but then again I do not rate the german original very highly either.I do like british ales but it very much depends on the pub which is serving it.
You might like Ale X in pub A but then in pub B the very same Ale X could well be horrid.
They all seem to be less than stellar from a bottle or even a can (the horror!).
Btw technically wheat beers are ales, not lagers so they do make some decent ales in Germany.Not sure if you know that but 'Ur-' means original. Hence Pilsener Urquell was the very first Pils while Einbecker Urbock is the bock from which all other bocks were derived.
The Bavarians liked Einbecker so much they headhunted one of their brewmasters centuries ago and the rest is history.
Similarly stout is a London invention which tickled the taste buds of the irish while falling out of favour in London.
Edits: 08/31/14
The Coopers being bottle conditioned are far better.
Do try them!
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
I will if I ever find it. ;-)
When I lived in London in the 80's I switched to real ales almost immediately because of the problems with Pommy lagers. And the Pils were even worse! There was nothing that wasn't disgusting. They completely destroyed the local XXXX. I discovered Fullers ESB and never looked back!
Cheers,
John K
The worst offenders are lagers on draught in the UK.
If it takes less than 5 minutes (absolute minimum) to draw a pint of lager they are doing it wrong.
Very, very wrong.
If the system is not pressurized (I haven't found a pressurized one in the UK yet) what comes out is too flat and headless besides being usually too warm.
Not quite as $$$ as Urquell.
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