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In Reply to: RE: Katrina posted by fantja on August 29, 2014 at 04:26:06
Mother Nature needs to flush the toilet occasionally, just like we do. People and decaying historical objects are often among the turds, so to speak. Fishfood. No disrespect intended.We love to eat, and so does the rest of nature. So, we must resign ourselves to being eaten on occasion. I live fairly close to Yellowstone National Park, home of the famed and fabled Angel of Destruction, whose belly rumbles on. Maybe I'm next on the menu?
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If the caldera under Yellowstone blows we're all screwed.
Last time it blew it covered practically all of North America with a 2m (6ft6) layer of ash and debris.
It will likely mean the end of civilisation globally.
To put things into perspective Mt St Helens released 1.2km^3 of material, last time Yellowstone blew it released about 1000km^3. It was like 840 Mt St Helens blowing at once.
But doubt anyone would excavate and open a museum. I could be wrong. Ashen casts of people flipping off others in traffic; cops frozen in acts of beating street people. I wouldn't pay to see us.
dams, levees.
Now, in 2004, the semi-destruction of my home by Hurricane Charley--- that was unavoidable.
The next thing on the list to be avoided is over-population, IMO.
Have you practiced what you speak?
.., and a simple vasectomy can work wonders.None of us asked to be born, and once born, most of us cannot help wanting to live. It's nature's directive to live on for as long as it seems feasible.
That said, I'm all for the *gradual* reduction of our numbers. I'm not one to advocate mass suicide or anything like that, but our species seems slated for destruction in one way or another. We're not like most other animals. We're physically fragile, at least compared to most other species, and that is one reason why we require so much in the way of materials and resources in order to survive.
Our species was only meant to exist in limited numbers IMO, and for a variety of reasons we have gone way past that number, which in turn has caused us to stray way outside of the geographical areas best suited to our species, which in turn causes us to use too many resources...
I believe that the human race was designed to be semi-nomadic, mostly inhabiting the sub-tropical regions favorable to primates. With occasional and temporary forays into the less temperate regions for resource retrieval purposes, humans might have had all they needed without messing things up for every other species. Such a scenario would require a population that is about 1/10th the size of what it is today, I'm guessing, and that number was surpassed a few centuries ago.
If we don't start making some adjustments, nature is going do it for us IMO. This is just my belief. You are entitled to your own opinions too, of course.
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You first.
I might be willing to go first if I though that just one death would help. I guess I don't trust that several billion others would follow in my footsteps, as might be required. Unfortunately, it will take a lot more than one or two deaths (or even several million deaths) to pave the way for a sustainable future. My opinion.
wartorn 20th century (1st half, mostly), this one is shaping up nicely (unless another US pres is elected who thinks invading countries and trying to create democracies is a viable and affordable foreign policy).
I'm hoping for the best.
The planet goes on.
Until the sun cinders it.
Then the sun goes away.
At least, in this particular dimension.
We have (had?) a definite and important place in the ecosystem, probably as a sort of *caretaker*, as the ancient Bible writings seem to indicate. Being an effective caretaker requires a high degree of intelligence and this might be why man has such a distinctive brain. I'm of no particular faith, but some of what has been written makes a lot of sense to me.
nt
May those who were taken rest in peace.May God (or god, or gods, or fate, etc...) grant us a quick and relatively painless death as we sleep, next time. That is the best case scenario, and that is my hope.
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I like to say- for those who believe in God (as I do), the rest they now have makes the issues and turmoil of this life seem like a cheesy parlor trick. For those that don't believe in God, Darwin is always right (in this case, survival of the fittest).
Sorry if that offends some, but if we are not allowed to speak our minds...
Dman
Analog Junkie
a hideous and painful one, earlier?
Anything's possible, I guess.Regarding your question about pain, discomfort, and death: the insects that bite us (and, in turn, get crushed underfoot) might provide a better answer than I ever could.
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"Weaver: What are you bitching about? in case you haven't noticed, we ants are running the show. We're the Lords of the Earth.
Z: Hey, don't talk to me about earth, okay, because I just spent all day hauling it around."
From "Antz"
nt
Dman
Analog Junkie
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