Welcome! Need support, you got it. Or share you ideas and experiences.
Return to MagneQuest/Peerless Forum
71.127.172.38
I built Gordon Rankin's Bugle, then converted it to parafeed using BCP-15 and EXO-045. Typical 45 operating points - 35mA current, 275V on the plates.
I've heard that the Sovtek 2A3 sounds good at the 45 operating point, but I'm concerned that it put out more than the 2W that the EXO-045 is spec'd for. How would one calculate the 2A3's output power, given the 5K primary, 8 ohm secondary and the aforementioned operating point of the 45? I imagine I'd need the specs/curves for the Sovtek 2A3; I don't have them handy but I'm sure I can find them.
I did see the calculation described in the DIY forum, but I couldn't make sense of it. I majored in physics so I can handle the math, but the prose was a bit obtuse...
Here is an excellent artical by John Broskie that my help you
with what you want.
Cal
Beeah
I just drew the loadline and you'll get 2.75Wrms
from the 2A3 at that operating point and load.
I use loadlines to figure power ouput.
DanL
![]()
nada
Here's a practical answer to your query...
independent of calculating the power output of a 2A3 at the operating points you describe---
the question of can the EXO-45 handle more than the nominal 2 watts we ascribe to the unit is the question of (perhaps) greatest import to you.
to make a long, long story a whole lot shorter--- our power rating is quite conservative--- and I generally like spec'ing conservative as this gives good magnetic headroom and allows the iron to operate in the region that we are aiming at...
however--- you already have the 045's in hand--- why not give them a try in the modified circuit--- worse case is that you would overload the outptuts and the tell tale sign of that would be a lot of distortion and just plain not very good sound. And it is likely only to occur (if at all) at the very, very lowest frequencies and at the maximum power levels--- so that if it begins breaking up simple solution is to turn down the volume.
But you might very well find that the 045's will just plain do fine with no change in your listening habits, volume levels, or etc.
You have the units--- why not just give them the workout and see (i.e., hear) if they work well in your app or not.
MSL
![]()
Builder of MagneQuest™ & Peerless™ transformers since 1989
Somebody above quoted 2.75 watts. That's the difference between response to 26Hz vs. 30Hz, or a hair over 1dB. You won't hear the difference.
In fact, there will be zero difference below the rated power, it's only the extra 0.75 watt that might be more distorted than it would be if the transformer handled more power - and only below the lower power-limit frequency, which must be in the 0-30Hz range. In other words, the 2A3 will have more power available, and be at least as clean up to the 45's power capability.
You're correct - my primary concern was the 2W rating. That said, it would be nice to be able to do the calculations if for no other reason than to expand my knowledge base that much more.
The answer to the "why not" question was my fear of damaging the coils. The circuit is operating happily with vintage 45s, but I thought I'd give the 2A3s (also in hand) a whirl if it was safe to do so.
If the worst case scenario is poor performance, I'll give them a go and proceed from there. Thanks again for the reply and the reassurance. Who knows - perhaps there's a pair of 050s in my future...
Cheers,
Joe
Post a Followup: