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In Reply to: RE: Wonder if it also effective in other languages... posted by musetap on September 12, 2009 at 23:32:21
>>> "If you're going to put that positive vibe to work, work it all the way!" <<<
Was this a serious question, musetap, or a rhetorical question ? If it was a serious question then yes, you are correct - work it all the way !!!!
If you write the letters O.K, then you should write them in capital letters i.e O.K as opposed to o.k. The whole point is that you are trying to 'link into' communication - widespread use of communication - and when people write in lower case writing, everyone's style of writing is different so if O.K is written in capital letters, it has a better chance of 'linking' because O.K in capital letters will be more alike than if written in the various people's styles of lower case writing.
You have to then take into consideration the 'strength' of words and their meaning i.e the 'strength' of the 'linkage'. The letters O.K are in widespread use, most likely in every language and have a common and positive meaning.
You are going through the logical thought process, which is good.
>>> "If you were Chinese and only spoke Mandarin and had no knowledge that o.k. were a positive, what would be the point of writing o.k.? Or O.K.?
As far as o.k. goes, I've always felt feeling o.k. is o.k., but feeling good is better than feeling o.k. Having an o.k. meal will suffice,
but having a good (or better) meal is preferable." <<<
It does not matter which language you read or speak. If you use the letters O.K you will be 'tapping into' the use (good usage) of the meaning of O.K and it's 'strength'.
Now, of course, the word (and meaning) GOOD is better than O.K. BETTER has a better meaning than good. EXCELLENT is then better than better. What you have to do is to stay with absolutely positive words (no ambiguous meaning) and words which have 'strength' i.e most commonly used. If, for example, you are Italian, you can use the equivalent word in Italian to GOOD, BETTER or EXCELLENT providing that word is not ambiguous i.e has other connotations.
The point I have always made is that you should not go into the dictionary looking for a word which means better than EXCELLENT if the word you find is some obscure word, not in general usage because it will not have the 'morphic resonance strength' of other words which ARE in common usage.
You have to see words as communication, and see communication as behavioural patterns, and then behavioural patterns becoming established as 'morphic resonance patterns', which are repeated over and over again, therefore having 'strength' !!!
>>> "I say write BEST, or CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM, or BACH or TOUMANI DIABATE or something really very much more positive than the seemingly mediocre "o.k." to possibly achieve the very best of what this pen/tweak/theory has to offer." <<<
The answer to that is NO. If TOUMANI DIABATE is not in general and universal usage and does not have a generally recognised positive meaning, it will not have the 'strength' of the mere words BEST or even GOOD !! This is what I mean by 'don't go down an exotic path', stay with the strongest, best positive word or words in most usage !!!
We give examples of what I mean in our Red 'x' Pen leaflet.
As Geoff says, you can experiment by using a readily available Red, Staedtler Lumocolor (permanent ink) pen with a fine tip and, for experimental purposes, the normal plain white address labels to write on.
It is fun experimenting. Write a label with the Red pen saying THIS AMPLIFIER SOUNDS O.K., attach it to the amplifier and listen. Next, write a label saying THIS AMPLIFIER PRODUCES GOOD SOUND O.K. Listen to that in comparison to the previous one and the sound will be better. Now, write a label giving the Brand name of the amplifier i.e THIS SONY AMPLIFIER PRODUCES EXCELLENT SOUND O.K. When you listen to that latest label in comparison with the previous one, you will have the best sound and then if you go back to listening with the first label in position on the amplifier, the sound - although good when you first heard that particular label, will now not be as good as with the latest label (giving the Brand name) attached.!!!
Regards,
May Belt.
But it does, because if you're just going through the motions of following a proposed act to tap into 'morphic resonance strength'
without fully understanding the possible consequences, then it only becomes a brainless act which can lead to brainless ritual and the user may as
well be a sheep.
But then powerful religions have been built and thrive upon brainless (and not so seemingly benign) ritual...
Also, if one isn't completely aware of the results and possibilities of following this theory properly then the opposite effect must result, correct?
My O.K. taps into the positive, but my ok. taps into something different, and though this may just be "audio" discussion taken to a different level
(especially since we are hear at an audio site) if morphic resonance is so powerful in any one direction (the positive), then it must be powerful in
other directions as well, most likely in not so positive ones, which may help explain the chaos of the world in which we live.
So with that in mind, O.K. seems not only imperative, but critical.
Morphic resonance is something I'm not much familiar with but will read up on it. Interesting theory...
I'm seeing in your post here that there are linear thoughts and ideals in the Belt techniques and theories which have evaded me previously.
As far as positive vibes go, I'm all for them and the more and more powerful they are the better!
“ Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination. ” -Michael McClure
> > > "But it does, because if you're just going through the motions of following a proposed act to tap into 'morphic resonance strength' without fully understanding the possible consequences, then it only becomes a brainless act which can lead to brainless ritual and the user may as well be a sheep." < < <
I am not expecting nor do I suggest that people "just go through the motions of following a proposed act". I expect and always presume that people will be intelligent enough to understand what we mean before they do any writing !!
Can we please stay on a sensible theme, having a discussion between sensible and intelligent people without resorting to words like 'brainless act', 'brainless ritual', and 'the user may as well be a sheep'?
Regarding my sentence "It does not matter what language you read or speak." I am meaning, by that, that there will be the equivalent in Chinese Mandarin, in Swedish, in Greek etc to the 'positive', 'good', English words such as GOOD, EXCELLENT, and that if the equivalent to those words and their meaning are in common usage in their own language, then they can use their own language. Or, they can use the English words GOOD, EXCELLENT, and even if it is not their mother tongue, those English words will still 'tap into' the 'morphic resonance strength' of those particular words, because it is the resonance of what they mean. It is the 'communication resonance' associated with those words which is the important thing and if the 'communication resonance' is common across all languages (with nothing ambiguous) then the positive effect will be similar. In exactly the same way as the Brand name SONY will be SONY - whichever language is the mother tongue of the country that SONY equipment is sold in. Just because the SONY brand is sold in other countries does not mean that the word SONY will be translated into the different languages of those countries !!!
> > > "Also, if one isn't completely aware of the results and possibilities of following this theory properly then the opposite effect must result, correct?
My O.K. taps into the positive, but my ok. taps into something different, and though this may just be "audio" discussion taken to a different level (especially since we are hear at an audio site) if morphic resonance is so powerful in any one direction (the positive), then it must be powerful in other directions as well, most likely in not so positive ones, which may help explain the chaos of the world in which we live." < < <
> > > "then it must be powerful in other directions as well, most likely in not so positive ones, which may help explain the chaos of the world in which we live." < < <
Yep !!!!! That is why I always emphasise that people STAY with the commonly used, 'good' positive meaning words, and NOT stray into more exotic words which might have other connotations.
Words like evil, bad, war, terror, death, killing, YES, all have similar 'morphic resonance strengths' but strengths which we do not want, do not want to use and do not want to encourage !!!!!!
If you read Carol Clark's article on using the Red 'x' Pen, you will see that, unknown to her husband Dave, she substituted the 'good' label with a label saying the word BAD instead of the word good, and he reacted by saying "please switch the sound off, it sounds awful".
> > > "Morphic resonance is something I'm not much familiar with but will read up on it. Interesting theory..." < < <
Yes, a very interesting theory indeed !!
> > > "As far as positive vibes go, I'm all for them and the more and more powerful they are the better!" < < <
All power to your elbow !!
Regards,
May Belt.
"Write a label with the Red pen saying THIS AMPLIFIER SOUNDS O.K., attach it to the amplifier and listen. Next, write a label saying THIS AMPLIFIER PRODUCES GOOD SOUND O.K. Listen to that in comparison to the previous one and the sound will be better. Now, write a label giving the Brand name of the amplifier i.e THIS SONY AMPLIFIER PRODUCES EXCELLENT SOUND O.K. When you listen to that latest label in comparison with the previous one, you will have the best sound and then if you go back to listening with the first label in position on the amplifier, the sound - although good when you first heard that particular label, will now not be as good as with the latest label (giving the Brand name) attached.!!!"
So what if I write: "This mid-'70s Radio Shack receiver I just got at the thrift shop for $15 sounds as good as my big Adcom?" Will that make it true? What if, instead, I say it sounds as good as a Macintosh, or a Mark Levinson, or a Conrad Johnson? Will the sound then more closely resemble one of those?
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