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In Reply to: RE: Help Needed posted by thetubeguy1954 on March 07, 2016 at 06:26:54
Had a gent buy pair of speakers said he wanted to have them shipped in 3 months time. I stored them and kept in contact after 3 months I had no response to emails so I stored speakers. 3 years later and after about 30 attempts to contact gent. I needed to clear space so listed speakers and sold them. The original buyer noticed add about 6 months after sale and demanded credit. This I gave him and after 3 more years he only used 50% So my answer is they are his drivers and you should send them out. Buyers in the wrong but he did pay.
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But John the second seller now believes the drivers belong to him as well! Besides I've already used his money, so I have no money to return to him "if" I were to send the drivers to the first buyer. The original purchaser admitted to me in an email that he's had my email address all along. So isn't this his problem? But thanks for your advice.
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
I would make him a offer. Also never spend the funds before the deals done. You knew you had both the funds and the drivers and that the possibility that this could happen as soon as you resold. I know situation sucks but its up to you to make it right with both of you if you feel your in the right then live with it. Cant make everyone happy. I for one dont want any bad blood so tend to make any who deal with me whole even if I suffer for it. Honestly doubt he would have a legal option but not a international lawyer so YMMV.
re: short selling.. ( stockmarkets )
The VERY old saying is this..
"Him that sells what isn't his'n, has got to buy it back, or go to prison !"
Tom, you are liable ...
Jeff Medwin
Jeff I no longer have the original buyers $$$$$ and since I was forced to provide storage for 24 months I never agreed to. The original purchaser is owed $1600 minus ---{ $50 a month storage x 24 months or $1200 }--- so I guess I owe him $400. That's all I'll give him. I honestly wished the original purchaser contacted me. He had 2 years to do so. You have no idea how much grief having that box sitting in my home caused between my wife and I ---{ I now live in a marriage headed for divorce and the original buyer caused 90% of this with that darn box sitting in our house as I waited for the drivers to be picked for 2 years and my wife keep pleading with me to get rid off it, asking who was more important her or this man who doesn't get his stuff }--- it would have prevented this whole fiasco. Besides this was a private sale, not a business. The legalities are a lot different...
The second purchase also feels the drivers belong to him, as do I. The drivers are going to the second seller in Norway.
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
$50 per month to "store" a pair of drivers that take up less than 1 cubic foot of space?????
Bottom line; You sold something the second time that you already profited from once.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
thetubeguy1954 , I'm fearful of seeming harsh and judgmental, but if I found myself in your situation I would feel morally compelled to "make whole" both buyers. One gets the drivers and the other is due a refund.
Don that's exactly what I'm going to do. The second buyer is getting the drivers and the first buyer a full refund at $50 a month, which is all I can spare from my monthly SSI checks. I honestly wished I could send more and maybe some months I'll be able to, but I'll send $50 for sure every month starting 4/2106. That's the best I can do for him. If he's not happy he can attempt to sue me but my SSI is not garnishable. All he had to do was have the parcel picked up at my home as he agreed to do. He had over two years to this. So why didn't he? He had the weight, dimensions and my address. This is all his fault and somehow everyone is blaming me for what happened? I know I wouldn't spend $1600 and let the drivers sit there for two years after I agreed to have the parcel picked up at the seller's home! Would you? So why did you Jan?
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
TubeGuy, you continue to make poor decisions regarding this. You've not gotten a written agreement from the original buyer to accept your $50/month for the next 32 months (more than two and a half years). What you ARE doing is admitting that you owe him the money or the speakers. Can y'all say "digging yourself into a hole"?
Have you contacted an attorney, as I advised? Probably not. I can't help you any more.
Have your wife or a friend move the box from the bedroom to the garage. Maybe that'll save your marriage.
"I now live in a marriage headed for divorce and the original buyer caused 90% of this with that darn box sitting in our house as I waited for the drivers to be picked for 2 years and my wife keep pleading with me to get rid off it, asking who"
Seriously? As a public service if anyone has boxes of valuable speaker drivers threatening marital happiness, Send them to me! ;) Thankfully my situation is more tolerant to sound equipment, I think it's cruel to deny someone access to their hobbies! Didn't you have some enormous RCA apeakers a few year back (or do I remember wrong ?) ? Those were sure enviable, I could see those causing problems on the domestic front!
I'll readily admit there were obviously other factors leading to the problems now occurring in my marriage, but that darn box sitting in our bedroom provided a lot of ammo for my wife, that wouldn't have been available otherwise, to start arguments whenever she wanted too! Yes I had RCA LC-9A cabinets quite awhile back, back when my marriage was full of love, sadly that's not quite what is these days any longer! Also sadly too often things change with the passing of time....
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
Maxhifi,
Thank goodness you're here! I have a 6 CD carousel, a VHS Hi-Fi VCR, a tuner, and an integrated amp all sitting unused and needing minor repairs. I also have a pair of 3/4" dome tweeters, a pair of 2" dome midranges, and a pair of 6" mid-woofers sitting brand new in their boxes for 15 years. I also have about two hundred VHS tapes which I haven't watched since I recorded them. Not to forget the woodworking tools which were my grandfather's and most of which I haven't used or maybe used a couple of times. Could you please take all of this stuff off my hands, in an effort to save my marriage, for a mere $80,000? If not, I'll keep it all.
:)
Now this begs the question - what is a self respecting audio asylum inmate doing with a carousel style CD player? :)
Well, if it matters, to help clear my name, it's an Onkyo Integra DX-C606, which was a pretty nice unit. Great display, buttons, remote, sound. Unfortunately, the sled gets stuck. I self-fixed it once, but it started doing it again.
:)
Just giving you a hard time - and I am not one to talk, I have one of those 300 disc pioneer changers under the stairs which I bought in the late 1990s... what a stupid idea that one was!
"The drivers are going to the second seller in Norway."
I suspect you mean "buyer". In any case, it would be foolish to send them ANYWHERE before you have the legalities resolved.
Sorry to read about your marital situation, but I'd doubt that a box sitting in your house or garage is precipitating a divorce.
Yeah, reading all this, I was thinking the same thing Inmate.
I'm not Dr. Phil, but been through the muck of a divorce and custody battle, but MOST women are a little deeper than just having a box or two of speakers lying around to precipitate a divorce.
I would look elsewhere for the reasons if I were you. It'll make things easier, but the original seller had nothing to do with your
divorce.
Good luck in all this......
John, my heart is like yours I would love to be able to make both parties happy, but I cannot. When I originally sold the drivers I needed the $$$$ to pay some medical bills for my prostrate cancer. So that $$$ is long gone. Then two years go by, I hear nothing from the original buyer and tried to contact him here on AA before reposting the drivers for sale again. As I told the original purchaser, why oh why in two whole years didn't you contact me just to let me know you were still alive and well and simply needed more time for whatever reason? That would have prevented this entire fiasco the 3 of us are now in.
And now that I've resold the drivers to this new buyer I'll send them to him and make him happy. Because his $1600 is also now gone! In the end I'll attempt to make the original seller happy somehow, provided he's willing to take the blame for causing this issue and he's willing to take a less than the entire original $1600 he paid. Truth be told I feel he owes me at least $13 a week for all the aggravation I've put up with my wife these last 2 years for having to provide storage this large box in our bedroom for the past 2 years! Besides I don't believe he has any legal grounds to stand on after I waited two years for the drivers to be picked up and considering he had the means to contact me the entire time I waited, if he chose to...
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
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