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In Reply to: RE: thanks, & question posted by Chuck on December 18, 2014 at 05:00:19
Hello Chuck! Just below is a picture of my speakers in the center. To the left is part of the Sachikos original plans and to the right are a pair of Sachikos with the side of. With the exception that mine uses better wood and a Rosewood veneer, how do you feel they're different than the plans on Frugal-horn? I honestly don't see the differences...
I'm listening to: Beneath the Veil of Winter's Face by Mystery
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
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I hadn't realized there were other versions than the pictures on their main page. Thanks for following up.
Easy to see why fe208esr did not load this cabinet properly. Tom you need to think of a loudspeaker as a whole fullranges are not a universal design that can be used in any cabinet. Its not the drivers fault that it was used in improper cabinet design. Thus your opinion on different transducers only related to them being used in this cabinet not a general this is better than the other but more like this is better in this cabinet.
Jon of course you're 100% correct and I'm sorry if I unintentionally mislead anyone. All my comments about any of these broadband drivers are all based on them being installed in my Sachiko cabinets. The Fostex FE206E's sounded very good, the FE206ES-R's sounded even better, I really liked the FE208ES-R's in the Sachikos from about 40Hz to 10KHz, but it would be difficult to compare them fairly vs the other two Fostex drivers because they had a special, proprietary, 7-step cone treatment applied, that the FE208ES-R's didn't have applied in order that I might keep their resale value high! Same goes for the Lowther DX4. The Dayton PS220-8 has that special, proprietary, 7-step cone treatment applied and with it applied, and installed in the Sachikos it smokes every other broadband driver I've ever heard in the Sachikos and elsewhere! I hope that clarifies my position better. Thanks for keeping things straight Jon.
I'm listening to: The Outsiders by Altered Laws
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
Any suggestions on what might be a better set of drivers to use in his cabinets?
In the Sachikos the Dayton PS220-8 drivers with the special, 7-step, proprietary, cone treatment applied are the best sounding drivers in the Sachikos that I've ever heard. I'd be amazed if anyone can come up with a better sounding driver than the PS220-8 drivers because the Sachikos were actually designed for usage with the Fostex FE206E drivers. And having personally compared the FE206E vs the PS220-8. I can tell you it's no contest, the PS220-8 literally smokes the FE206E drivers ---{ with the cone treatment applied to both drivers }--- in the Sachikos!
If anyone claims they know of a driver that sounds better in the Sachikos than the PS220-8 ---{ with the cone treatment applied }--- would have to prove it to me that it sounds better! But anyone can come here to my home, listen and hear for themselves what these PS220-8 drivers do in the Sachikos! Finally if both the FE206E and PS220-8 are both run stocks, sans any cone treatments, their performance is closer, but I still prefer the PS220-8 by a smaller margin.
I'm listening to: The Outsiders by Altered Laws
Thetubeguy1954 (Tom Scata)
Central Florida Audio Society -- SETriodes Group -- Space Coast Audio Society
Full-range/Wide-range Drivers --- Front & Back-Loaded Horns --- High Sensitivity Speakers
Did Kloss ever explain why he thought those Sachiko cabinets of yours were not optimal enclosures for the drivers you've been using? I would be interested in knowing how an engineer could guess about something like that without measuring and listening.
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