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In Reply to: RE: Do keep in mind pricing is per 'each', not per 'pair'... posted by Ivan303 on December 02, 2014 at 19:14:20
The Cornwall on paper looks like an excellent choice, my only reservation is that when I auditioned a pair of heresy III's quite recently (admittedly not a Cornwall) I found them to have a certain boxiness to the sound which was somewhat unbefitting of their price. It could be a resonance I was hearing or maybe just an unfamiliar room and system but to me the system lacked the sort of open window transparency which a high quality stereo system is capable of producing. Now I know this is a very subjective subject and i don't intend to rule out klipsch, in fact I really want to hear them, but I will proceed with caution.
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In my humble opinion, and to a much lesser extent in my experience, boxiness is an intrinsic problem with high efficiency woofers in reasonable boxes - the box is so big that the large surface areas of the box radiate significantly. It is not really practical to make 2" thick cabinet walls in a 6 cubic foot cabinet, let alone 6" walls.
I once helped a friend approach the problem with an 18-inch ID sewer pipe section 3ft long - the walls were 2" thick concrete IIRC. It succeeded acoustically, but then he got married ... :^)
Roger Bacon got thrown out of an ecclesiastical council for suggesting an Ass be found and the teeth counted; not Aristotelian, dontcha know.
"Boxiness", "honking", "ringing (as ascribed to Altec horns)", "directional"; all these terms are used indiscriminately on the 'Net because someone, somewhere once heard an A7 or Patrician or Klipschhorn with that horrible 'squawker', that evinced that impression.
Until one has listened to a seriously over-damped alignment (that's a smallish box) with a true catenary horn, or Altec 604s with an improved crossover in a TL box or JBL 2446s with the outrageous 470 horn, other opinions informed only by what's read on the Internet is simply paying homage to "the posts of Christmas past".
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If it was not clear, when I referred to "boxiness" I just meant the vibration of the box walls, and the sound generated by that vibration.
Nothing to do with midrange horns, which have their own issues ... :^)
"Until one has listened to a seriously over-damped alignment (that's a smallish box) with a true catenary horn, or Altec 604s with an improved crossover in a TL box or JBL 2446s with the outrageous 470 horn, other opinions informed only by what's read on the Internet is simply paying homage to "the posts of Christmas past"."
+1
And there are others worth trying that are much different than horns from the past.
The Klipsch 400 horn, which many people still listen to, and which Klipsch still uses, is 100 year old technology. We have come a long way since then.
Big speakers and little amps blew my mind!
actually listening to (or for that matter, building) speakers, right?
Right?
I have to start attending weddings as well as funerals?
Can do. ;-)
Hi Paul,
Thank you for reminding me that your company's website has an excellent section on efficient speakers. I read it years ago before I actually had a triode amp and was ready to buy something, I think I will re-read it now for some more ideas. I used to have a pair of Goodmans Triaxiom speakers in monkey coffins and between box resonance and the horn tweeter's honk it was something of a disaster. I also have some sweet sixteen speakers I built purely becasuse I always wanted to, and although they could blow you out of the room with a transistor radio's power, they are a fundamentally flawed design and sound a mess. On the other hand I have heard some high dollar Tannoys with. Low powered tube amp and they sounded amazing, much much better than the heresys mentioned above in every way.
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