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In Reply to: RE: Tekton posted by Travis on September 16, 2014 at 16:08:06
I've heard the Lores and owned the M-Lores. Both are excellent values with none of the problems you mention. Personally have never had any luck with single driver speakers, but my experience here is limited. FWIW, when I've heard Lowther based systems in the past, they've left me unimpressed. Maybe with the "right" design there would be magic, but I've yet to hear it.
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Mick,
How does the M-Lore compare to the Lore? Did you go with the M-Lore because you preferred it or was cost the determining factor?
I'm dying to hear from someone who has heard both!
Thanks!
I purchased the M-Lore's because I wanted a smaller speaker to fit my room 15X23. Cost was also a consideration. I found a used pair in walnut veneer with a silver cap on the tweeter and non std. grills. I am running mine with a 6 watt per channel tube amp and only have to turn the volume knob to 9 o'clock unless I really want to rock out then I turn it to 10 o'clock......
I picked the M-Lore mainly because it was going in a 10 x 11 room. As I later found out, it did just fine in a room roughly twice that size. If you're trying to fill a big space and want something that plays a bit louder (and need the 3db gain in efficiency) probably the Lore is a better fit. On a refinement basis alone, I preferred the M-lore ever so slightly. I think it's tweeter may be a bit more forgiving to boot. With this all said, I can only assume the Enzo might just be the best of both worlds....if your budget permits.
Thanks for the response Mick.
I actually owned the regular Lores for about a year or so. Ended up selling them to a friend. i really liked them (damn exciting), but there was just this ever so slight edge in the upper mids or lower highs that I couldn't alleviate. I ended up purchasing the Lore-S model. It is more refined all around and more detailed, but I think a little less full. More "audiophile" and slightly less fun. I have a very neutral and detailed low powered tube amp and I can't help but think that I would have been better moving to the more forgiving M-Lores.
Does this make sense?
Sonicboom might have a good point. When I listened to a pair of Lore's for the first time, the whizzer was the first thing that caught my eye. My friend had upgraded the x-over with better components ( a total PITA BTW ) of the same original values in an effort to tame things down a bit. I think he was partially successful, but the whizzer may have been the real culprit all along. Nonetheless, his Lore's sounded pretty good when driven with tubes (Latino ST 70) vs his solid state JOB 225. This all said, and I'm using sonic memory here, the M-Lore doesn't have a whizzer and it's overall presentation is more laid back. After owning it for a few weeks, I concluded that it fell more in the "music lover" category yet had no trouble highlighting component changes and superior program material. Your decision is now only complicated by the fact the new Lore no longer has the whizzer.
Thanks Mick and Sonic. Your comments confirm my thoughts and experience. I too have a glorious refurbished ST-70 and an even better EL84 SEP by Finale Audio here in Canada. Both sets of Lores were great with tubes. And you are both right in that my decision is now further complicated by the new reference Lore. Would have popped for the M-Lore just for kicks, but now I'm stuck.
Well to further complicate, the Oriel 10 looks just as interesting at a $150 savings over the Lore/Lore Ref. Looks like it might have the same soft dome tweeter as the M-Lore. Maybe a call to Eric is in order.
Please let us know what happens.
If I can sell a piece of gear I no longer use, I might pop, too.
"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
> > I actually owned the regular Lores for about a year or so. Ended up selling them to a friend. i really liked them (damn exciting), but there was just this ever so slight edge in the upper mids or lower highs that I couldn't alleviate < <
In my experience, this "edge" is more than likely due to the whizzer cone. I may be a bit more sensitive to this coloration than most, but I've never heard a driver with a whizzer (even the expensive ones like Lowthers and AER's) that didn't exhibit this issue in the upper mids to some extent. Then again I haven't heard all the whizzer coned drivers out there, so there maybe one or more that manage to avoid this. By the way, in the new Lore Reference, the driver does not have a whizzer cone so it's possible that this "edge" is now gone.
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