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RE: Try a driver explicitly designed for voice ....

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In Reply to: RE: High efficiency speaker with great reproduction of speech posted by beppe61 on April 07, 2014 at 01:10:11

... Intelligibility does not preclude musicality !
amongst (perhaps @ the top) of the genre :
http://site.camelectronics.com/pdf/8C10FEPAX.pdf

http://site.camelectronics.com/pdf/8C10FEPAX.pdf (Open in New Window)

Edits: 04/08/14

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RE: Try a driver explicitly designed for voice .... - Hornlover 08:07:02 04/09/14 (2)
I have used drivers like this in the past. They can give surprisingly good midrange performance.
- RE: Try a driver explicitly designed for voice .... - hitsware 09:26:28 04/09/14 (1)
  It should not be a surprise :)
  Just that they are not marketed towards the hi-fi
  crowd and are too inexpensive to ' merit ' .
  They are a way of life for me .
  - RE: Try a driver explicitly designed for voice .... - b.l.zeebub 09:36:28 04/09/14 (0)
    I vaguely recall back in the '80s a (german?) speaker manufacturer used a TV driver as a mid.
    It was quite cheap but very good.
" Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! " - beppe61 22:44:45 04/08/14 (6)
Hi and thank you very much indeed for your valuable advice
I completely agree with your statement that i quote
This is exactly my point and if i am not wrong also the point of the Spendor speakers designer.
Once you get the voice very right the rest comes together.
Ok ... maybe another woofer for the low end and a tweeter for the high to complete the bandwidth.
Thank you for the suggestion of a driver.
I am sure i will do some DIY soon.
As i said my intention is to make a speaker maybe limited in freq but HE and very good with voices.
And then add something down and something above it.
I think that this approach is sane.
Kind regards,
bg
- Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! - Bill Fitzmaurice 14:31:18 04/09/14 (5)
  That's true. My speakers are high sensitivity, and my system is absolutely flat from 20Hz-20kHz. They sound perfect with music, and as far as voices are concerned you literally cannot tell a person speaking on the TV from a person speaking in the room. IME if a speaker doesn't faithfully reproduce the spoken word it's not faithfully reproducing music either.
  - RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! - Tre' 20:30:11 05/01/14 (0)
    " my system is absolutely flat from 20Hz-20kHz"
    
    That's truly amazing.
    
    I've lived a long time but I guess not long enough. I've never heard of a speaker system that is truly flat 20Hz-20kHz.
    
    You must use some unbelievable drivers.
    
    Tre'
    Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
    "Still Working the Problem"
  - RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! - beppe61 23:23:54 04/09/14 (3)
    Hello and thanks for the valuable reply.
    You say " That's true. My speakers are high sensitivity, and my system is absolutely flat from 20Hz-20kHz. They sound perfect with music, and as far as voices are concerned you literally cannot tell a person speaking on the TV from a person speaking in the room.
    IME if a speaker doesn't faithfully reproduce the spoken word it's not faithfully reproducing music either "
    You have won my complete attention. Especially when you state
    " you literally cannot tell a person speaking on the TV from a person speaking in the room " ... sublime !
    Looking at your designs (truly exceptional I must say sincerely) here:
    http://billfitzmaurice.net/
    which one you would rate the best for this task of speech reproduction ?
    They are all equally good ?
    Very impressive speakers indeed. Congratulations !
    I knew i need a bigger listening room ...
    Thanks a lot again.
    
    Kind regards,
    bg
    
    Edits: 04/09/14
    - RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! - Bill Fitzmaurice 05:08:32 04/10/14 (2)
      > which one you would rate the best for this task of speech reproduction ?
      
      My personal HT setup is TLAH L/R, SLA CurveArray center, Table Tuba sub.I don't use horn loaded mains because they're a bit large for my room.
      - RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! - beppe61 06:21:29 04/10/14 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! posted by Bill Fitzmaurice on April 10, 2014 at 05:08:32
        
        Thanks again.
        Very interesting designs indeed.
        I would guess that drivers selection is quite critical to achieve top performance
        I will read your site carefully during the weekend
        Kind regards,
        bg
        
        Edits: 04/10/14
        
        RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! - Bill Fitzmaurice 09:42:43 04/10/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Intelligibility does not preclude musicality ! posted by beppe61 on April 10, 2014 at 06:21:29
        
        > I would guess that drivers selection is quite critical to achieve top performance
        
        Not so much with a line array. You can find quite inexpensive drivers with good response, though they may lack high sensitivity and power handling. Use enough of them and both high sensitivity and power handling are realized.

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