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In Reply to: RE: High efficiency speaker with great reproduction of speech posted by beppe61 on April 07, 2014 at 01:10:11
I think you're over-concerned with this especially about the crossover. Don't let the ramblings on internet forums get in your head too much.
Every speaker design makes a compromise. The vocal range covers a wide spectrum and also a wide spectrum of dynamics. I have heard single drivers do a nice job of female vocals but male bass/baritone at higher levels a two way with a crossover can sound more rich and full and "real."
And the other problem is that in most all music - a singer doesn't stand alone - there is usually some sort of instrument/band playing and many single driver no crossover sound clean and tidy etc etc but lack dynamics/bass/treble extension - and no matter how great it may be with a singer's voice if the cymbal sounds utterly fake or the speaker compresses badly - your ear/brain will get bothered by the fact that something is patently not right.
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Hi and thanks for the kind advice
I am above all concerned with the crossover point
I am sure that a low crossover point is not a problem
And actually i think it is very important to take away the powerful bass from the midrange
The midrange is delicate and if the same driver must cope also with a 50-60 Hz strong signal i am sure i will get IMD.
But at first i would like to focus on the midrange.
Once got it right i will think about the rest.
The intelligibility of dialogues for me is of paramount importance.
For instance now i have distortions ... like the voice out of focus.
And the all effect is very fatiguing and annoying ... source of stress.
Let's say that i am looking for a voice monitor.
Kind regards,
bg
I agree that being on the internet doesn't imply truth. You need to judge what is there. But in this case you should at least respect the opinions of a designer like Derek Hughes with decades of design experience of speakers that have the highest respect of many reviewers and listeners. He certainly does know something.
"Don't let the ramblings on internet forums get in your head too much."10-4 on that, RGA. I rarely give much credence to your posts, despite your apparent self-importance.
Edits: 04/07/14
Nor should you. The worst thing anyone on these boards can do is rely on internet posts (mine included) or review magazines.
If you'll notice - every single kind of loudspeaker has a reviewer somewhere that touts the loudspeakers. I prefer HE/SET - a lot of people who do will perhaps enjoy what I have to say - people who like Wilson Maxx3 and some sort of giant arse solid State behemouth of an amp don't share a similar ear. Since they sell a lot of them and the amps that drive them it is clear that what turns their crank and mine differ immensely.
The OP was noting things he heard about designs based on what he was told - and myths get created. Myths like SET has no bass or treble which for decades was spouted off and regurgitated (without anyone of them actually auditioning the stuff).
Horns are bad - you find out later they based that view on hearing a $399 Klipsch connected to a $199 receiver at a drug store. No kidding The Drug store London Drugs in Canada sells such systems. "It was bright" so all horns suck. Four other people agree and suddenly forum memes are created about how awful horns sound.
People seem to have gotten defensive - I wasn't attacking Hughes or single drivers. The OP should simply listen - it's almost better to do all the listening first - take notes of the best stuff THEN and ONLY then see if he can correlate technology with the best sound. Most well experienced audiophiles have more trouble with that because we bring a whole set of expectation bias into the auditions.
:)
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