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In Reply to: RE: Lowther on JE Lab OB posted by FTT on March 31, 2009 at 18:31:09
Lowther drivers (Alnico based drivers in particular) sound STUNNINGLY good in open baffle application. I have many many full/wide range drivers (almost all eight inchers) that I have used in bass reflex, Transmisson line, front and back horns. I accidently tried a pair of Lowther drivers in a just built pair of JE Labs open baffles prior to packing up these particular Lowthers for sale. Well, I still have these Lowther drivers but now in a more attractive and narrower open baffle backed up by a pair of Tone Tubby Alnico Hemp cones from 200 HZ and below. I still choose to allow my Lowthers' to run full range though. Keep in mind when running eight inch Lowthers in the JE Labs baffles you will need help from a subwoofer close to around 100 HZ and below. I still use a pair of subs with my Lowther/TT setup. I will likely never go back to a non-open baffle setup again. There is just soooo much more real life there. Most of my other full/wide range drivers also sound their best in open baffles.
So they sound good as long as you don't expect any bass eh? Swell.
Tom,
"So they sound good as long as you don't expect any bass eh? Swell."
No, they sound GREAT as long as you don't expect any bass. And, the same is basically true of each and every eight incher that I place alone in any of my open baffles (some smallish, some quite large). All of these single 8" drivers reach their lowest bass potential in the floor reinforcing position within the JE Lab's baffles. However, don't expect anything beloww around 100 HZ or so. But, my two corner loaded T-line 10 inch subwoofers dialed in just below 100 HZ fill in smoothly with the Lowthers. It sounds fantastic! So open, alive, and spokky organic. However, don't expect much midbass snap. After all it's only an eight inch driver. That is why I followed the lead of several others and tried the renowned 12" Alnico Hemp cone Tone Tubby in the bottom of a taller yet way narrower baffle. I have already discussed crossover points. The Alnico Lowthers and the TT's gel,mesh together seamlessly, so now I have the magic of the Lowther plus pleanty of snap. Hey, nothing is close to perfect in audio reproduction, but, this speaker setup floats my boat like nothing ever has since the mid-1970's.
I disagree with one point made above. The Lowthers are very good (outstanding if enABLed) at midbass snap, which is above 100 hz.
To see what I mean, try playing some great midbass music with only your subwoofers playing (your Lowthers are disconnected or turned off), and hear how much midbass that your subwoofers are playing - none.
Retsel
Restel,
Always good to hear/read from you. I don't have an opinion about the "enABLed" stuff, but I absolutely agree with you about Lowthers plus subwoofers generally means little midbass snap. However, I guess that by subwoofing we mean 100 HZ and below, right? When I had my big ole Alnico Lowthers in the JE Labs open baffles with only a pair of subwoofers filling in around 100 HZ and below, the sound was/is spooky alive, open, airy and full of tone and air. BUT, there is not much midbass snap (hencen the original "not perfect statement". An issue that is easily rectified. do yourself a taller yet narrower pair of baffles, (not talking to you with this stuff Restel, you already know it well) add a bass/midbass driver and now you have snap also.
"To see what I mean, try playing some great midbass music with only your subwoofers playing (your Lowthers are disconnected or turned off), and hear how much midbass that your subwoofers are playing - none.
Retsel"
Well, I don't agree with this statment. Lowthers do have quite a lot of midbass snap, if the amps are good. My point about the enABL treatment is that the Lowthers greatly improve in dynamics greatly improving on the midbass snap.
Whatever woofers that you might add will have no impact on midbass snap because these frequencies are dealt with by the midrange driver.
Retsel
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