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In Reply to: RE: hi-res lp digitizer posted by kenzo on October 15, 2016 at 13:07:56
I've not seen any devices capable of DSD or even 24/192 for under $100. Are you convinced you need that degree of resolution?
Several years ago I started recording lps with a now discontinued Tascam US 322. You can still find it on Amazon for just over $100. It records at 24/96. I have since purchased a DA-3000 but still record at 24/96. I tried 24/192 and DSD but didn't find the differences convincing. YMMV
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Have you tried DSD 5.6-MHz? Personally, I think it is the best sounding format I've ever heard. I used to use an Alesis Masterlink to record my vinyl at 24/96 and I thought it was perfect. However, after buying my TASCAM DA-3000 and making some DSD 5.6-MHz recordings, I feel like they are even more perfect if that's possible. ;-) Anyway, I kind of fell in love with DSD 5.6-MHz and since storage memory is cheap nowadays, I've decided to make all future recordings of vinyl at DSD 5.6-MHz. Perhaps it's really not any better than 24/96, but it's fun to do and it sounds better to me.
Incidentally, I really like my DA-3000. I also use it as an autonomous digital player by plugging in USB flash drives to its front panel USB port. I have a lot of commercial hi-res digital including DSD 2.8-MHz and the DA-3000 seems to have one of the best sounding DACs I've ever heard.
How do you like your DA-3000?
Best regards,
John Elison
john,
if you record at hi rez, can you put that onto a disc in hi rez that is playable on a universal player?
...regards...tr
> If you record at hi rez, can you put that onto a disc in hi rez that is playable on a universal player?
I don't know. I've always played hi-res from a hard drive or a flash drive. I used to use my computer with Foobar2000 software to stream hi-res from its USB port to a DAC with a USB input, but nowadays my Oppo BDP-105D accepts USB hard drives and flash drives directly. My TASCAM DA-3000 also accepts up to a 64GB USB flash drive into it front panel USB port for playing hi-res up to and including DSD 5.6M.
There is something called DVD Audio that I've heard about but never used. I believe it contains 24/96 digital on a disc that can be played in DVD Audio players. I really don't know much about DVD Audio, though.
My old Alesis Masterlink could put 24/96 digital onto a regular CD-R, but it was playable only in another Masterlink. However, that was the only way to get my recordings off the Masterlink's hard drive and into my computer. It was a pain in the ass and I went through a lot of CD-Rs because they could hold only about 21-minutes of music. Consequently, I really like my TASCAM DA-3000, which uses removable 32GB SDHC memory cards for transporting my recordings to my computer for mastering.
Best regards,
John Elison
John, does 32GB continue to be the maximum SD card size for the DA-3000? Just wondering if a firmware update somewhere along the way may have changed the maximum capacity limitation.
On the Tascam site there is a list of recommended SD and CF sizes and brands for the DA-3000. I'm using 133x 8 and 32 GB CF cards from Transcend. Also have a USB 3.0 reader to transfer to hard drives
I bought my DA 3000 in March of 2014. It continues to work flawlessly.
nt
I think 32GB is the largest SD card you can use. Is there some reason you need more continuous memory? A 32GB SD card provides over 6-hours of continuous recording time at the TASCAM's highest resolution of DSD(128). When it's full, you can simply remove it and install an empty memory card. What were you planning to do that required more continuous memory? If you need more, the TASCAM can use up to a 64GB CF memory card for recording. Again, all memory cards are removable so you can simply install fresh memory cards when you fill up the ones you're using.
Good luck,
John Elison
Thanks, John. Just wondering before I purchase a couple of cards to swap in and out. I've got a DA-3000 headed my way and am gathering the complement of ancillary materials I'll need for digitizing my vinyl over time.
I appreciate all of the information you've shared at AA about your experiences with the DA-3000.
Congratulations on your purchase! I'm sure you will really like the DA-3000.
I bought two 32GB SDHC memory cards to start with and I've used only one. The second one is still in its package.
I normally record several LPs in succession and then remove the SDHC card to transfer the raw recordings to my computer for mastering. I use TASCAM Hi-Res Editor software to master my recordings, which means cropping and splitting into individual tracks and labeling each track accordingly. When I insert the SDHC card back into the DA-3000 I reformat it.
On one day-long recording session I actually filled the entire 32GB memory card. I think I recorded 10 or 12 classical Lps to DSD(128). However, I've yet to even use my second SDHC card.
Good luck,
John Elison
John, thanks for the additional information. I will be following a very similar process to yours. I still have to figure out what disk storage I'll set up. So, more research to do on that.
I can't find a working link on the Tascam site to download the Hi-Res Editor software. I've found the page, but the link will not launch a download. I guest it's because I use Windows 10, not listed as supported. Any suggestions?
I use Windows 10 and it works just fine. I can't remember if I had Windows 10 a year ago when I downloaded it, though.
Maybe their link is down. Try it tomorrow. The zipped file is 31.1-GB so it's probably too large to attach to email and send to you. However, I would do that if it were possible. Maybe the download link will work later.
Good luck,
John Elison
/nt
Actually, I meant 31.1-MB. Is that too large to attach to an email?
Hmmm, I know my incoming server will accept 20MB, but I don't know about 30. I can open up a shared folder in my Dropbox account for you if you send your email address to me via my profile. That way you could upload to it and I can then pull it down. Would that work for you?
Greatly appreciate your willingness to help!
Just click on my name and you will see my email address.
Thanks,
John Elison
I recorded multiple LPs at DSD 5.6 MHz. They sound fine, but to me, not much different than 24/96. I have software that allows me to load two versions of the same song, select the same small section of each and quickly switch back and forth between them. It's easy to spot differences. Given my experience (and my ears), I'd rather have smaller files and twice as many.
The DA 3000 is a very nice recorder and big improvement over the US 322. I still buy mostly LPs but most of my listening is from the recordings I make.
> I still buy mostly LPs but most of my listening is from the recordings I make.
Me, too! I prefer to listen to vinyl via the recordings I make. They sound just as good as the real thing and digital is so much more convenient.
Best regards,
John Elison
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