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In Reply to: RE: Can the Sony PS-HX500 a game changer ? posted by akltam on January 07, 2016 at 07:50:54
Even when I used an inexpensive Zoom digital recorder and converted vinyl to 24/88 flac files the files sounded just like the vinyl. So the Sony does nothing that hasn't already been done
Alan
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I have left Vinyl for at least 20 years and I am considering to come back.
For the 24/88 flac files you have converted, how is the sound like ? Does it sound better than the CD version. (I assume you have compared the converted file and the CD). Also how does the converted file compare to the original Vinyl. Does it lost the warmth of the vinyl ?
TIA
Alan
People who have heard the flac file and don't know the source always comment how much like vinyl it sounds. It sounds exactly like the vinyl source.
Alan
I've been making digital copies of vinyl since 1991 and I agree with you regarding the sound quality of the digital copies. My Hi-Rez 24/96 copies of vinyl are basically indistinguishable from vinyl. I have been using an Alesis Masterlink since 2003, but I just bought a TASCAM DA-3000 DSD recorder . It can record PCM up to 24/192 in addition to DSD64 and DSD128. Digital copies of vinyl sound identical to vinyl to me.
Best regards,
John Elison
If you got the chance to compare your converted file and an officially issued CD ?
Alan
My digital copies of vinyl sound identical to vinyl. They sound very different from commercial CDs in the same way that vinyl sounds very different from commercial CDs.
This answer seems to emphasize the fact that digital recording is not having a sound effect on the source even when that source is vinyl. Means to me that vinyl is having a (great) effect on the source recording it is trying to reproduce. That people like that is puzzling me. What they seem to need is a "vinyl sound" plug in and they can play all digital recordings (CD and files) with the vinyl touch, without the bother of lp playback.
I get bored very quickly with the added distortion and colouration vinyl playback adds to the original sound.
Thankfully we have DSD and high resolution PCM which makes it possible to record high quality sources and reproduce them at the highest quality, also in surround.
I havone that and it is like comparing the vinyl vs the cd
Alan
Alan and John, thank you so much for some realistic and experienced views of appropriate data rates needed for the succesful transfer of vinyl to digital. Otherwise we seem to be stuck in yet another numbers game where marketing wins over reality.
For me, I have found that 24/96 from the $300 HRT LineStreamer+ produced outstanding results and 24/192 from the $1800 PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter was not a step up. I didn't bother with DSD even though the PS Audio ADC will do it. My previous experiences with DSD told me that for my ears, 24/96 PCM is all I need. YMMV.
In fairness to the PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter on pricing, it includes a quality phono preamp and can convert to higher resolutions including DSD. With the HRT LineStreamer+ you use your existing phono preamp. In my case, I have a capable phono preamp and found that 24/96 (the best the HRT can do) was just right so I couldn't justify the price difference.
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