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In Reply to: RE: I was thinking of Meridian fantja... posted by fantja on December 12, 2014 at 15:25:04
Since I can implement analog bass management with the Outlaw Audio on DSD output I'm thinking hard about an Oppo 105D with no processor. I always wanted to use the balanced connection to the front two channels of the DV-50 for both stereo and 5.1, and have 2.1 available - but with no volume control I couldn't do it. But that leaves me with two other problems:1. Figuring out how to play JazzFM (over the internet) on the Oppo. This is my wife's default listening.
2. I would need to swap out the Pioneer Pro 1000-HD with the Samsung PN51F5500AF. The only big deal with this is that I can't get a floor stand for the old TV and don't really want another wall mount in the house. And I can't bring myself to throw out an excellent TV. I've even tried giving it away to friends and relatives. Maybe a universal pedestal mount would work.Chances are I'll just get the DV-50 fixed as this whole thing is a headache.
Edits: 12/14/14Follow Ups:
Many Thanks! for the update Jim.
earlier this year, I did spend time w/ the Oppo 105D. It was in an Aesthetix / Vandersteen system. The Oppo was connected to a Benchmark DAC and iMac laptop. The demo included both streaming and iTunes capabilities.
On the other system, different room, I spent time w/ Esoteric, Pass Labs and TAD. The Esoteric was connected to the Pass pre-amp via balanced XLR Audioquest cables. Yes this was a 2 -channel system.
If you would like to know more about my auditions, I will try to help as much as possible.
I am curious about what you didn't like about the DV-50 playing CD in the stereo setup. In my system I definitely preferred it to my Marantz SA14, liked it just as well as my brother's Arcam FMJ CD23 but preferred the Meridian 808 we had on trial for a short period. I don't play a lot of CDs, but one of the things I do - referring back to the OP - is use Cardas Neutral Reference for the whole chain for the stereo XLR output but use Golden Reference for the front L,R in the 5.1 output. This allows me to warm up the sound and move the soundstage back if I don't like the sound through the XLRs.
Sure Jim,
this has happened on 2 separate auditions, so I know that it is the player not jiving w/ my ears. The CD characteristics of the player are lean, dry, narrow or closed-in soundstage- compared to the SACD capability. The other system in question was Boulder / JM labs/Focal.
Although I find it very much depends on the mastering of the CD and the Golden Reference interconnects definitely help to mask these deficiencies where they are present. By the way, I use the maximum upsampling on the player.
It was perplexing Jim-
how can a player sound so superb on SACD and crap out on CD?
This was the DV/SA models. Perhaps, because there are so many Esoteric models, one of the more expensive player(s) corrects CD playback.
I found that the upsampling filters did not matter.
The sound quality from my Ayre C-5xeMP and Sony XA5400ES playing SACDs is close, but not with CDs. The Ayre sounds surprisingly better than the Sony. I've been amazed how good CDs can sound with the Ayre.
db
I use my Ayre CX-7eMP for all CD playback. SACDs are all run through my Marantz SA11S3. Some of my friends think it's nuts to run two players in one system, but it works well for me.
That is saying alot- sleeper!
I agree db-
a very fine CD spinner indeed!
I was just listening to Highway 61 Revisited and right now my wife is listening to Getz/Gilberto in (SACD) 2.1 (5.1 single-ended setup). To a certain extent I hear the same characteristics in SACD and CD - and need the expansive and smoothing effect of the Golden Reference cable - although of course the SACDs tend to be better mastered. The SA models are a different kettle of fish as they convert to PCM.
That's fine Jim.
Still, this is the best SACD spinner I have auditioned to date!
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