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In Reply to: RE: flac players and car audio posted by tamule on November 28, 2014 at 06:05:39
What's a headfi ?
I'd go AUX before Bluetooth. Bluetooh sounds pretty crappy in most car setups compared to the AUX input. I've run various iPods and iPhones playing uncompressed ALAC or AIFF via Bluetooth, AUX, and direct connect into the car's audio setup. This was on my 2003 vehicles up to today. We've also tried Bluetooth in my wife's vehicles over the years and it sucks. Bluetooth has consistently been crap compared to the other methods.
My Current Setup:
Direct Connect into car audio system using the car's own DAC
Playing AIFF & ALAC files off the iPhone 5S
Some other in car music options
Streaming Pandora
Streaming Amazon Music
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Does your car have a USB input. My Toyota Camry has a USB port that accepts a USB flash drive with either MP3 or WMA files. I use the highest resolution WMA format and I get 60 CDs on a 4-GB USB flash drive. It sounds very good to me. I also stream Pandora via Bluetooth from my smart phone and it also sound good to me. The Pandora app is actually built into the car and the smart phone is needed only for the Internet connection. However, it gives me great sound quality as far as I can tell.
Best regards,
John Elison
yes. 2012 Hyundai elantra has the aux and USB inputs. I'll try that
John e- do your WMA files sound as good as your car cd player?
Yeah, the USB flash drive with WMA files sounds just as good as the car CD player.
just started playing hi-rez flacs with the A&K 100II via car aux input. sounds at least as good as the cds. finally done bringing cds in the car.
I may not have Pandora set up correctly but I consistently get better sound from streaming Amazon Music. If you're not familiar, Amazon will let you stream every CD that you ever bought from them but I'm not sure what bit-rate they use.
My car does have a USB port that can read music off a thumb drive but I haven't used it for that purpose yet. I've used it to upload the most recent software update for the car's 'infotainment' system.
The navigation system uses a hard disk drive instead of a DVD. The hard drive has about 20GB of extra space where music can be stored but I haven't tried that either. 20GB of 'extra' space isn't that much so I just use the iPhone, streaming a service or my own music files.
Your car with the hard drive--is that by any chance an Audi? I had a 2010 Audi with a 20 MB hard drive for storing music, and it would only store mp3 files--refused to copy anything else (e.g., .wav) from a thumb drive.
No, it's a 2013 BMW with hard drive based navigation and 20GB of 'left over' space for music. I think it supports WAV and MP3, but probably not AIFF, AAC, ALAC.... not sure as I haven't tried it.As much as I like it coupled to my iPhone 5s, I'm convinced that no auto manufacturer should be in the infotainment system business. We should leave that to Apple CarPlay, Google's OAA, or others.
There's a good article linked below.
Edits: 12/02/14 12/02/14
If you use the highest resolution MP3, it will probably sound good in your car. However, it might be a real hassle loading the hard drive unless you can connect a computer. I have a USB port in my car that accepts MP3 and WMA from a USB flash drive. I have 60 of my favorite CDs on a 4-GB USB flash drive and they sound just fine in my car. I'm very surprised you haven't tried MP3 in your car just to find out what it sounds like.
Best regards,
John Elison
thx abe . by headfi meaning headphones,earbuds etc.
Comparing car audio to headphones is too general a question--the outcome of the comparison depends completely on the quality of the car's audio system and the quality of the headphones (and how well matched they are to the phone's output power). I have never heard a car audio system that is as good as a very good pair of headphones (e.g., Sennheiser HD-600).
In any case, such a comparison is pragmatically meaningless, since (1) you better not be driving with headphones on(!), and (2) as a passenger you would be dealing with a lot of ambient noise that would intrude into your headphone listening (unless you use noise-cancelling headphones, none of which are first-class headphones).
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