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In Reply to: RE: Dabble in SACD? posted by Drew769 on March 12, 2014 at 10:20:42
You're not going to get any kind of SACD player that you're going to like nearly as much as your vinyl rig, and you'll walk away disappointed.
Plus, (IMO), any sub $5K SACD player doesn't do redbook worth a crap, and your REGA player will sound much better on regular CDs.
The value of SACD to all but a few classical fans is contingent on how well the player performs not on SACD, - but on Redbook.
Personally, I have about 40 SACDs mixed with pop rock jazz, and a few classical. Only 20 of those are any good. I am grateful to have those Peter Gabriel, Dead Can Dance, SACDs, but SACD on my player is, as it should be, an afterthought.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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Sorry, I cannot agree with that.
Regards,
Geoff
Every SACD player that I've owned or even heard does CD at least fairly well. Some better then others sure, but $5k is a ridiculous floor.
+1
My SCD-2000ES does Redbook as well as / better than many CD players in my system, including some fairly expensive ones.
Harry
Just my opinion. Never heard a sub $5K player that isn't improved redbook by sticking a $2K DAC on the back to the digital outs. A clear test, ever try it?
SACD should be an afterthought, because there's no software. JMO, but I would also never have a SACD player that doesn't also DVD A & V. I've heard Sony's where plugging in a $950 Arcam CD player shatters the redbook section.
do the comparisons...
Sadly, there are no corners to cut, many of the elements that make up a good to great CD player, need to be present in a SACD player too.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
I understand your point but to peg a dollar figure on it is tough.
When SACD was all the audiophile rage (about 10 years ago!), everyone on the bandwagon were in awe at how much better SACD sounded compared to redbook.
What they didn't understand was that the SACD player makers had a vested interest in ensuring that SACD sounded better. Intentional or not, the redbook capability of those players were an after thought making many redbook CDs sound pretty ho hum.
I think that there is not the best evidence, but it certainly seemed like Sony, et al, - purposely made redbook sound worse to highlight the wonders of SACD.
You're right, - it is tough to put a dollar figure on it, & I was perhaps being a bit hyperbolic to make the point.
Cheers,
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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