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In Reply to: RE: Send it back, John posted by Dave Pogue on March 13, 2014 at 05:30:10
Your idea of transparency is wrong. Think of it like this:
Suppose you are looking out a plate glass window onto a view of the countryside. If the window is truly transparent, what you see through the window will be identical to what you see when the window is removed.
Transparency and accuracy go together. I judge a digital components transparency with the sound of vinyl. My Alesis Masterlink is truly transparent in that I can make a 24/96 digital copy of a vinyl record and the digital copy will sound just like the record when played back through the Masterlink. Furthermore, when I transfer the digital file to my hard drive and play it through my DAC, it also sounds just like the vinyl record. However, when I play that same file with the Oppo, it sounds different than the vinyl record.
The Oppo has a definite sonic signature that none of my other digital components posses. Perhaps I've been blessed, but I have owned accurate and transparent digital recorders and players for the past 20-years. Perhaps you remember when Mike Lavigne challenged me in June 2007 to prove to him that I could make a 16/44 Redbook CD-R that sounded like vinyl. Mike lost his own challenge when he failed to identify the CD-R recording from a vinyl record being played on his $75,000 Rockport Sirius III turntable.
I really don't think there is anything wrong with my Oppo BDP-105D other than the fact that Oppo gave it a definite sonic signature rather than making it accurate and transparent. On the other hand, you must have thought there was something very seriously wrong with your Oppo to spend twice it price on modifications to its power supply and analog output stage. Actually, I was hoping that the Oppo would be accurate and that you wanted it to be colored, and that was the reason for spending all that money. However, that doesn't seem to be the case with my Oppo. It is already colored more than I prefer.
Since I have it setup and running in my system, I will keep it for another couple of weeks of break-in before making a final decision on whether to send it back. We'll see how it goes.
Best regards,
John Elison
Follow Ups:
We'll have to agree to differ on the subjects of "transparency" and "accuracy."
As to why I modded the 105, I've explained it elsewhere. But here it is. I have 150+ SACDs and thousands of CDs. I've had, prior to the 105, five players that would handle SACDs, topped by the $3K Sony XA-777ES. None of them sounded remotely close to my Raysonic 128 ... on CDs. On SACDs, the Raysonic -- playing the CD layer when there was one -- usually sounded as good or better than any of the SACD players
What I was looking for was one player that would do it all -- play CDs at least as well as the Raysonic and play SACDs better than anything I had heard to date. If the stock 105 hadn't done that, I wouldn't have kept it. It passed both tests. It sounded so good that I wanted to see how much better I could make it. Thus the ModWright modifications. And NOS Sylvania 6SN7s (arriving tomorrow). And a NOS 5R4GYS rectifier tube from Upscale Audio (arrived yesterday). And topflight power cords and interconnects (already owned). And full attention to damping and decoupling (maple platforms, brass cones, cork/rubber things, also already owned).
With all this, I still don't have as much new money in it as the original flagship Sony and Marantz SACD players, which the modded Oppo already pretty much leaves in the dust, IMO. Whether you keep it or not, your 105 will never sound like mine. But it should sound damn good. I still recommend that you send it back, because you have taken such a strong and repeated stand relative to the "inadequacies" you perceive, and I think you'd be much happier with something else. But obviously, your call.
> We'll have to agree to differ on the subjects of "transparency" and "accuracy."
What are the terms that you use to describe a component that imparts no sonic signature whatsoever? Whatever terms you use to describe that concept, please feel free to insert those terms into all my previous posts in place of the words "transparency" and "accuracy." This will alleviate the need for me to rewrite everything I've already written so that you might understand its intended meaning. LOL! Unbelievable!
Yes, I now understand completely why you modified your Oppo BDP-105 -- you didn't like the way it sounded. Wow!
Thanks,
John Elison
Happy listening.
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