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In Reply to: RE: Dabble in SACD? posted by Drew769 on March 12, 2014 at 10:20:42
One of the attractions of SACD is MC capability. From your post, I gather you're a stereo guy like me. As much as I appreciate the addition of the rear and mid channels when I hear it, I feel a really good to excellent stereo rig can be more involving than any number of channels with crummy sound. With an entry level player, it's doubtful you will realize much of the increased resolution/higher fidelity SACD offers. Yes, the DAC in an SACD player is just as important as in redbook, but that is only one aspect of a player's performance. Even cheap DAC chips these days are better than most chips were a few years ago, so the DAC chip itself, while a factor, is no more important than the rest of the output stage. That is where better engineering and execution of design can pay dividends of improved sonics. Buy a cheap player, and you'll get an output stage that has every cost cutting strategy implemented, and you will not get much of the SACD magic other than extra channels you will probably not use. But if you can find a way to use the extra channels, it might be worthwhile to make even a small investment in hardware and software. If you like vinyl, you will like stereo SACD on a really good player almost as much, perhaps more. You will probably look at an entry level player as a waste of money for stereo only.
Peace,
Tom E
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Buy the Sony 5400 ($1,500) I have an expensive vinyl set up but the Sony will give you access to new music. The SACDs usually do not sound digital and do not fatigue the way RBCDs usually do at least to my ears. Can be more dynamic with deeper bass than vinyl. Still vinyl is superior over all but SACDs are worth investigating.
I have hundreds of SACDs and CDs--I gave up on surface-noisy, cult-fetish LPs decades ago--and not a single CD sounds as good as the poorest SACD. The multichannel Classical SACDs sound so much better than 2-channel CDs or LPs, the latter aren't even close.
Multichannel Classical SACDs sound MUCH-more natural and spacious than any CD or LP could ever hope to sound.
So there's one reason, Drew. The other reason is overall resolution, with SACDs superior again.
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Tin-eared audiofool, large-scale-Classical music lover, and damned-amateur fotografer.
William Bruce Cameron: "...not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
My post states at the end that going to mch would be worthwhile with even an entry level player, but probably not for just stereo. If one gets a better than entry level mch player, so much the better.
Settle down, man.
Peace,
Tom E
Is where you claim that NO CDs sound as good as ANY SACD. I have some CDs that provide absolutely top-notch sound quality. These are almost always HDCD encoded or use K2 or SuperBit technology.
Take a good listen to the Creedence Clearwater K2 CDs, the Santana Abraxas SuperBit CD, or almost any of the Grateful Dead/Other Ones HDCD encoded discs and see if you don't agree...
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But do understand that I spend my time listening to the music and NOT comparing the sounds of layers of my SACDs or different-disc versions of the same music.
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Tin-eared audiofool, large-scale-Classical music lover, and damned-amateur fotografer.
William Bruce Cameron: "...not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted."
To each his own I suppose...
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Alban I can dig, Anton not so much. :-(
I saw your post in Music about Wozzeck!
All is forgiven!
Berg Violin Concerto is a personal Fav.
The Bach Chorale is a stroke of genius!
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I totally agree, mch SACD is far more realistic than stereo whether LP or CD as for a SACD player I recommend Sony XA5400ES which I understand is still available only in the US, incidently it is also an excellent CD player.
Edits: 03/13/14
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