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In Reply to: RE: Time Out posted by Jazz Inmate on July 14, 2012 at 08:11:25
What is really needed is a serious mono reissue of this album. It was recorded multi-track for mono mixdown and it really sounds best in the original mono version. A lot of the early jazz stereo recordings also sound good in mono.
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I agree that many early stereo jazz recordings sound absolutely superb in mono. In fact, many of them, when played in stereo almost shout out "please play me in mono". But "Time Out" does not seem to be one of those. I think it *really* sounds good in stereo, so much so that multi-channel may be a disservice. Although the stereo releases certainly have that tell tell "hard left", center, "hard right", biases. Ha! I may have just made your argument for a mono release!
Robert C. Lang
Time Out is NOT one of those records with horrible, fake, stereo effects, and I do like the stereo mix. However, to me, the stereo mix creates problems with the sound of the drums. The mono lp, played with a mono cartridge shows up the difference. I would prefer a reissue that had various mixes, with the mono mix being part of the mix.
I have heard various CD, lp and early SACD reissues of this record, and I like the original 6-eye Columbia release the most (for both stereo and mono). It could be because the master tape was still new and pristine, or it could just be mastering differences, but a bit of liveliness is gone from the reissues I heard (not really that big of a difference, but, I prefer the originals). I have not heard the recent reissues (I really don't need another copy of this warhorse); a lot of the reissues from companies like Analogue Productions do sound great so there is hope for a superior reissue.
By the time Time Out was recorded in '59, it wasn't much of a problem. Certainly not with the Columbia engineers.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Time out (two channel) is superbly engineered; not exactly seamless as a modern recording. But it gets so much right to render any imperfections a non issue.
Robert C. Lang
...at how phony it sounded. It sounds to me as if each instrument lived in its own telefone-booth-sized acoustical space, and the hard-right piano sounds simply in the WRONG place.
I just received my Analogue Productions SACD, and altho nowhere on the disc or the jacket does it contain the M-ch symbol, it has 5 channels of output. A QUICK listen to 'Take Five' late last nite told me the piano is no longer hard right (more right-center), so I think and hope this one will sound better overall.
More later.
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"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." Albert Einstein.
I don't believe I have ever hear a mono mix of "Time Out". I look forward to your further comments, especially on how the new mixes (stereo and MC) compare with a good mono.
Robert C. Lang
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