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In Reply to: RE: Comments-Saint Saens Symphony No. 3 (Organ)-Orchestre Metropolitain du Grand Montreal (long) posted by Robert C. Lang on July 02, 2007 at 23:25:05
Interesting comments. I still haven't heard the Eschenbach yet, but if there were any mov't I could live with being ruined, it would be the third. I believe that Mr. Renner of Telarc was not happy with the final chord as well--distorted on master tape. A sleeper performance of the Saint Saens for me is DeWaart with the Rotterdam on Philips, both lp and it's on SACD as well. OT, but what turntable did you end up with? I finally picked up a copy of the Shaw/Telarc Carmina Burana you have; it has one fatal problem: no gong/weak gong in the first and final sections. I still have fond memories of listening to your system. I'm sorry I looked so surprised when you opened the door to greet me: having approached your grand, palatial house atop a hill, I couldn't believe you were...
...so young. : ) I expected an old man rolling around in an electric wheelchair with a blanket on his lap. With the addition of a turntable it's now perfect, ha ha.
"You did seem visibly and hopelessly perplexed when I opened the door, and not because "you couldn't believe that I was so young", which I don't deny. That's OK; I get that all the time."
That actually *was* the reason. I was using "triple irony." When I lived in Davis and managed the Classical section of a little store called "CD Research," all of my listening buddies were old, retired professors at Death's Door with fabulous houses. Two in wheel chairs, one blind but still perky. He was some way famous geneticist back in the day.
I paid $50 for the Telarc at Mikrokosmos.com, (you gotta act fast for the popular titles), and sold at on Ebay for $100-something.
Thank you for your compliments on my system. Also, I, too, benefited from your visit (as I have from other Asylum Inmates who have paid me a visit). After you left I did some tweaking based on comments you made (perhaps unwittingly) and you also provided valuable input into my quest for a turntable.
Also, I *just* noticed, when you referred to the DeWaart Saint Saens as a "sleeper" performance that good right? Initially, I thought you meant boring (still thinking of the Nezet-Seguin).
Robert C. Lang
the Rotterdam (Pentatone) is better than the SF. Performance and sound. Not my favorite but a good and vigorous one.
Speaking of Edo de Waart have you heard his Also sprach Zarathustra with the Radio Philharmonic on Exton? What do you think?
Also, when you say "better than SF" what San Francisco disc or you referring to?
Robert C. Lang
De Waart recorded the Saint-Saens with the SFS and Jean Guillou as organist for Philips, and it was briefly available on CD. (I like this performance a lot, too--better than the Rotterdam one.) It was done at the same time (April 1984) as the Telarc Jongen CD (and solo Michael Murray CD) to mark the installation of the new Ruffati organ at Davies.
Russell
Jean Guillou was the featured organist again in SS No. 3, this time on Dorian label with Mata/Dallas Symphony recorded in their brand new orchestra hall, the sound of this CD is superb if you can tolerate Mata's slow tempos which is not easy after hearing Munch on RCA, to me the benchmark performance.
Vahe
I have Edo de Waart with the San Francisco Symphony on CD. I think I bought it more than 15 years ago and it's still one of my favourites.
You did seem visibly and hopelessly perplexed when I opened the door, and not because "you couldn't believe that I was so young", which I don't deny. That's OK; I get that all the time. Besides, my wife liked you when you seemingly took her side with your question "how is it that you have allowed him (me) to take over the living room (with my audio set up)" or something to that effect.
I'm glad to hear that you said that Renner acknowledged that the Telarc Organ Symphony, especially the final chords (but elsewhere too) was distorted. Now I know it's just not me.
How much did you pay for your Shaw/Telarc Carmina Burana LP?
What turntable did I settle on? I have updated Inmate Systems. I also posted lasted night in the Vinyl Asylum with a question. Perhaps you can help out.
Robert C. Lang