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In Reply to: RE: hd800 bad reputation posted by Old SteveA on October 21, 2015 at 14:38:30
... (When used with better equipment)."
What, exactly, is "better amplification" for the HD-800? If you've already posted on the *secret to success* with the HD-800, I'm unaware of that. Please share the secret, once again.
You are also the only one to ever imply that the "ring radiator" used is UNDENIABLY the cause of the types of problems you've just described, AFAIK. How do you know this to be *absolutely true*?
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Well ,I suppose just saying "using better equipment" was pretty vague & misleading.. It's more a matter of using them in a better placed system approached playback system.
It's the source components you use that make or break the quality of the music you listen to "better".Most people only think they know what the music they listen to (Good,Bad, or Indifferent) sounds like. There are source components that will allow you to hear "further" into what was recorded than others. There's really no "Secret" going on here ! It's way too late to try to find significant improvements at the amplification stage.
Now, the reason I've assigned these problems to what the "ring radiator" does to the sound,
is because I have removed these parts from my HD800. I don't listen to much of any music that isn't Acoustic (mostly Orchestal, other Classical, Singer Songwriter , a tiny bit of Acoustic Jazz) so I don't know how much of what I could hear through the stock HD800s bothered others, but I'm positive that what I'm hearing from them now is completely free of the mechanically generated ,frequency interrupting & imaging contouring artifacts post my "intervention". I'm not so sure that if you just cover the rings completely with corresponding rings cut from a sheet of dBNeutralizer damping material from Herbie's it might be enough to
defeat what the radiator is doing to the natural imaging, but I'd still want make sure the protective screen were'n't still connected to the metal ring.
I'm guessing there may be other people who don't like what the ring radiator can potentially
do,but I guess they're just not crazy enough to be vocal about it !
Have you seen this before?http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/diy-modification-sennheiser-hd-800-anaxilus-mod#sf7lop62gVexexPE.97
There appears to be some treble resonance in HD800 relating to the hard pieces on the inside of the earcup, which this modification absorbs.
A quotation:
It's important to understand that it's not the driver putting out the excess between 6-8kHz, but rather that there is an acoustic "ringing" in the space within the earcup. Sort of like when you blow across the top of a bottle and it toots. Of course it's much less dramatic than that.
Edits: 11/24/15 11/24/15
He,he,he,....yea, Tyll's version of the Anax Mod was the first one that I tried as it was probably the most straightforward (& simplified) way to perform this mod at the time.
The drivers aren't "directly" responsible, but the parts that are attached to them where they attach to the earcups are. The "Ring / Trapezoid" inserts to the earcups knock down the excessive boost to trouble frequency response area quite a bit & many people are completely satisfied with the result.
I suppose I was still hearing some "anomalies" that the Mod didn't "fix" to my liking. (Which
I'd rather not rehash ) . If you are interested in this Mod, by all means do try it. It is completely reversible.
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