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I bought a Civil War era house. While while I do the reno, it's "house camp" - hifi in the living room, wires everywhere, with the TV sitting on a couple books on the floor. The sound is terrible. There is an enormous hump around 200 Hz. It's so bad some music is unlistenable. Brown Sugar is one cut that's awful at any level. The boom overwhelms everything. I don't have to fix it, as I'm building a music room, but it remained a puzzle.
This took a while to figure out. Dimensions don't help; no multiples. The LR is 15 x 19, and opens into a 10 x 16 DR. Ceilings are 7'6" (remember, old house.) The gear is Tannoy Stirling GR, Manley Snapper, Oppo 95, and modded VTL Deluxe. No LPs for house camp.
Last night as I went upstairs, I rapped on the living room ceiling. Boom. It sounded like a tom-tom. Knock on the ceiling anywhere and it rings like crazy. The ceiling/floor construction is a good 13" thick, and I'm guessing it's big joists far apart with lots of empty space. It feels like modern sheetrock - probably from a recent reno.
Ah, that's better. I don't have to fix it, as the music room has different construction (there are at least three additions on this old house.) But it's good to solve a riddle.
WW
"A man need merely light the filaments of his receiving set and the world's greatest artists will perform for him." Alfred N. Goldsmith, RCA, 1922
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This is an interesting frequency. Many boominess issues I read about, here, and am personally familiar with, occur around 40-50 Hz and are related to flabby walls and empty spaces behind them.
I hope you can further pin down the source of your problem and fix it. Resonance at 200Hz must be miserable to hear.
I was also wondering about the 200hz thing and boominess..thats normally around the 50-100 hz range
Take a broom and press on the ceiling when playing that problematic track , see if it lessens ... if it does , its celing related
You can stiffen the ceiling which will raise the resonant freq .. add another layer of ceilingboard
Walk around the room when its playing as well , if it reduces in some places , its a room node and not ceiling related
Rodney Gold Cape Town
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If your place is anything like Ray's BOOM BOOM ROOM up in New York, as seen at the link below. I'm on my way over...
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The beautiful thing about living in an old home is the pleasure of knowing it was built to last. My home was built in 1905 in Queen Anne style and is just a delight to be in. The downside is nothing is standard - windows and doors were built on-site and none are quite the same size, heating was originally fireplaces (6) and again none are the same. In short, lots of frustrations at times and then lots of enjoyment and pride in owning something that craftsmen took pride in building.
I married the perfect woman. The downside is everything that goes wrong is my fault.
Maybe if you tune the room just so, you'll never need subwoofers! Love your tube gear and the Tannoys though. Good luck!
I used to go there all the time.
Lived pretty close to it in sf.
I remember hearing a rumor the stones were
Gonna show up and played. Ran out of my place at
About 1130 to the boom boom room.
They were a no show!
I had a somewhat similar situation when I was doing some system/acoustics work for a nightclub in downtown Madison, WI a long time ago (1979?). There was a boominess which didn't make sense for the size/shape/treatment of the room. As I suspected, it was the cavity under the raised stage area - it resonated like a bass drum. Stuffed that sucker full with absorptive material and added some bracing - problem solved.
Since then, whenever there is a raised stage, I always stomp my foot on it a few times to get the feel of how the cavity resonates.
:)
Congratulations on your old house purchase. Living in and renovating an older place can be incredibly rewarding...and frustrating...and expensive...and totally worth it.
Our house isn't quite as old as yours (1924), but it has odd dimensions, an untraditional floor plan, and an inscrutable history reflected in multiple "remuddlings". Unraveling the puzzle is a big part of the fun.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
Beautiful pic! WW
keep us posted as you massage your system into the listening space.
I like your room MUCH more!
Good luck sorting audio waves out and settling in!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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Ha,, you beat me to it! My family lived in Laguna Beach for many years. Never went in the place tho...
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