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In Reply to: RE: Why even have a CD player? posted by chocolate_lover9999@yahoo.com on December 19, 2016 at 12:35:33
Ripping a CD with dbPoweramp takes all of two minutes and does tagging and artwork automatically.
That's about the time it would take me for a single playing of a CD to hunt it down on the shelf, remove the CD, carry it to and place it in the transport and reverse the process when done.
From the second playing forward, I save time and can access it universally across four systems spread across the house and garage. :)
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The ass-shaped dent in my listening chair has been duly documented, my file-based system gets play every day, and I'm grossly overweight from lack of the back and forth it would take for me to lose 3 pounds by switching album sides and disks, added to my intake of delicious snacks I consume while listening.
I am the poster child for file-based systems, yet I still spin a black pizza or whatnot on occasion.
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use another computer based app to track my running and cycling activities to fend off middle aged spread. :)
Middle age , what you plan on staying around to 140 ... :)
I mass ripped my CD collection in 2010 using dBPoweramp with a subscription to all the metadata services it could use. I checked the metadata matches before every rip and had to make some corrections to most of them. Inconsistent Artist naming and missing or erroneous Album Artist fields were the most common problems. But I also found a lot of problems in track listings. And for about 20-25% of my CDs, I had to hand enter all the metadata and Google for artwork because there was no match or the match was completely wrong. Most of these were classical, compilations, or hybrid SACDs. I even had to scan a few dozen CD covers.
It was a tedious and time consuming process.
I've continued buying and ripping CDs since then and IMO the state of internet sourced metadata hasn't gotten much better. Even the music streaming services haven't sorted it out. Search for an artist on Tidal and you often get a list of matches like
Artist
The Artist
Artist, The
The Artist feat Blah
Artist, Blah
Artist and Blah
And then you have to sift through these entries trying to find the album you're looking for.
didn't share that level of grief in terms of needed corrections. On the other hand, I recently purchased the soundtrack to Magical Beasts and Where to Find Them which has been the only CD that did not find tagging data.
I guess I'm not a metadata Nazi. You get 100% more tagging information than you get with physical media in any event. :)
dbPoweramp sounds great. A lot of people rip copies (wav files) of original CD's which can be more time consuming using mediamonkey, foobar and even jriver but then again copies are illegal ;)
I like CDs even though I don't use them much ... once I acquire a CD I immediately rip it to Hard Disk Drive (HDD) as 16/44 files and use that for storage and playback, mostly.I never did buy a CD player; they all sounded terrible to my ears right up until the mid 1990's when I first bought a CD-ROM equipped computer, and used that instead. It didn't sound any worse than the standalone disk players I auditioned at the time so I pronounced it good and moved on.
At the time, disk drives were not large enough to hold much music; a CD itself was as large as the drives you could reasonably buy. So the computer was used as a line level CD player.
I did eventually buy an OPPO multi-disk player (not Blu-Ray though) but of course it was to access DVD-A and SACD more than anything else.
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dbPoweramp sounds great. A lot of people rip copies (wav files) of original CD's which can be more time consuming using mediamonkey, foobar and even jriver but then again copies are illegal ;)
..."By Law, in Canada, copying music (not video) is specifically legal under the Copyright Act. Music Rights Holders are compensated by a levy on re-writeable media such as CD-R, DVD-RW, etc. which is then distributed via same rights organization that deals with distributing any copyright fees such as radio airplay, television rights clearanceing or Muzak licensed public streaming (such as at your Dentist's Office).
Although the levy is not huge, it is comparable to what artists receive by way of royalty from Record Labels and is higher than the average payment from downloads.
The contracts between artists and Record Labels are secret and covered by a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA), but the rates are well known; about 5c per song for a CD and about half that for a download.
It might be worth mentioning at this point that artists had to sue the labels in order to get paid for downloads; prior to the successful lawsuit the labels paid $zero for downloads.
Note that the label gets 70c from Apple (for example) per song, and pays the artist 2c from that amount. If the artist still owes the label money for the last recording session, they keep the whole 70c; otherwise they only get to keep 68c and pay 2c to the artists.
Industry figures tell us that less than 1% of all artists ever manage to pay back their label all the money they owe, and thus start to get royalty checks actually paid to them.
There is something called the "Statutory Rate" which is mentioned in US Law, but all you need to know about that is no artist, not even The Rolling Stones, gets a payment that large, which is 7c per song.
I therefore often sample new-to-me music from my local public library, which has robust CD collections available for library card holders, just like books. Our city public library routinely buys two copies of virtually every disk released, and for more popular titles will purchase perhaps a dozen copies (one per branch, plus archival copies). There is an entire floor at Main Branch, a multi-story building one half a city block wide and one block long, full of CDs and other disk media you can take home (maximum 8 at any one time).
If they are music CDs you can rip them to your computer, perfectly legally.
Despite that, I still buy new full-cost CDs and peruse remainder bins and flea markets. Note the distinction ... all music copyrights are owned by the Record Label, not the musicians ... it's the essence of a recording contract with a label. A royalty is paid to the musicians which is their compensation for signing off the copyrights to the label, which broadly speaking they never see, as they must pay back the label for monies advanced to them to record the release in the first place.
The cost of recording has a magic tendency to equal the sales potential of a given release. Funny that way.
However, those royalties are only paid on 90% * of the sales of full retail CDs. Discounted disks such as those found in the discount bins at Wal-Mart are royalty free. The band gets nothing, not even a credit against loans, when you buy them.
Most artists get more rights money under the Canadian copyright scheme than they ever did from disk sales, and aside from grumbling about the rates, which is a bargaining tactic as the rates are revisited from time to time, the artists are quite happy with the scheme.
* 90% because the label retains 10% of all royalty payments to account for disks given away as promotion. No, they don't give away 10% of the production run. That's why you should read contracts before you sign them.
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I believe that it's perfectly legal to make copies for your own use. What's not legal is (a) to make a copy and give that copy to someone else, or (b) to make a copy, keep that copy, and give the original to someone else. That is part of the reason why I keep all my cds after ripping them to the hard drive.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
is the ability to access your musical library instantly - across multiple systems without making CDR copies - and in ways you could never do jockeying disks in and out of jewel boxes.
I now spend far more time listening than shuffling. :)
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