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some have fallen off and some removed.
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A Victrola that was once owned by Al Capone, and at the right price? You bet I'd buy it.
and the more childlike the numbers are the better the darned thing will sound.
I remember back in the early 80s our security dept in the military would offer free engraving on personal gear (cameras, boom boxes, etc.,) #1 identifier in case something was lost or stolen? you guessed it- SSN. Sounds crazy today but back then there really wasn't the wide spread identity theft as we know it today. Heck in boot camp you couldn't receive a letter unless the sender included your SSN ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ENVELOPE along with your name, unit, etc..but wait it gets better- a LOT (if not all) doctors were required to include their medical identifier number and SSNs (or at least partial, usually just the last four but many times I'd see full SSNs) each time they signed off on a medical note in a medical record. Some docs who were stationed at boot camps had stamps which included their SSNs and are probably in 100's of thousands of personnel's vaccination record. This went away towards the mid 80s once home computers and the information highways started to take off. Fortunately even back then access to medical records were pretty secure for obvious reasons. It wasn't until 85 and later that extreme, secure access and strict adherence to the 'privacy act' (passed by Congress in the late 70s) would take full effect-NOT because of SSN but because of another 3 letter acronym: 'HIV'.Personally I used my driver's license number on my items only because a female security officer convinced me this would be the quickest way to have the item traced back to me (in case I was ever deployed, my driver's licensed was my 'home of record' address which generally was a next of kin/parents).
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It depends on what you mean by "missing". Sometimes serial numbers are on stickers. The glue dries up and they fall off. Other times a thieves have ground off an engraved serial number to prevent identification of the component.
You might ask the seller if he/she has the original invoice. That ought to clear up questions of provenance in some instances.
Best motto in this is do unto others..
I would be pretty annoyed if I found out someone bought a piece of equipment stolen from me. Even if years ago.
So no.. I will not buy sketchy stuff.
Just like selling broken stuff.. Takes a certain sort of sleazeball to try to sell broken equipment claiming it is working...
Some of the worst rip offs are cables. Counterfeit cables.
I will not buy 'new' cables from eBay. They are almost certain to be fakes.
caveat emptor.. 'Cuz you really do not know...
what if you bought it off someone not paying attention and not caring if serial number was present or not. And then realize later when trying to resell someone didnt buy it because of it?
I own a couple of items with flaws. Those items will NEVER BE SOLD. They are flawed. I just will not try to sell off crap.
SO I guess my moral compass passes the test?
The stuff I could lie and sell off is worth over $2,000. SO yeah, I am 'eating' a pile..
I would never even give them to Goodwill... And have some other person try to sell them on eBay after finding them at Goodwill.
It depends on your morals.
If it actually fell off that is one thing, but usually it was removed by a thief. Thieves are not all that smart and do not realize they might be hurting the value of their booty removing or defacing the serial number. I have known cops as well as robbers.
There is no "hot sheet" like there is for cars. And they are not going to kick in your front door ad look to see if you stuff is stolen, or ask to see if you have receipts for everything. With cars, yes. However in places where the cops don't have the front bumper mounted cameras that automatically scan the plate number, you could drive a stolen car for months.
Audio equipment, TVs, most computers, you are not going to get busted. A hot PC is only a problem if it has certain security software on it, or was stolen from a hospital or government office. At that point they are worried about the information on it. They simply don't give a shit about the hardware itself. However MAC does have software that if stolen, the webcam will take a picture of the next person who connects that computer to the internet and send it to, umm, whom ? The cops do not care at all.
If you want a personal answer, well, if the thing is fifty years old and was stolen, it may have been stolen forty years ago. What do you want to do with it, throw it in the dumpster ?
I admit I have bought hot shit. Today I am not so sure I would. I have been ripped off and I am tough on crime. Let me explain how tough, I will kill you for stealing a fork. You do not steal from me and I do not steal from you. I believe everyone should have a gun and put the risk back into crime. You know, back in the 1960s alot of people had guns in the glovebox of their car, what was the crime rate ? I think everyone should have one in the house and if anyone ever breaks in they should shoot to kill.
As such, I would seriously jew them down on the price, telling them the defaced of missing serial number greatly reduces the value of the unit.
(incidentally, my use of the word "jew" is used purely colloquially. It does not refer to the People. If you take it that way, then take it as a compliment on their business acumen)
I used to think nothing of thieving. Then I got ripped off. They took my stereo and my guitar. My tools. My TOOLS !
Actually before I woke up I bought some hot tools, but they were in original packaging. That means they were ripped off from some faceless corporation (Sears) and not out of the back of a pickup truck which some guy needs to make a living. Even when I was young and dumb and full of cum I would not buy a toolbox full of tools.
I will not rip people off nor support those who do, but big corporate and government are still fair game as far as I am concerned because they have been doing it to us and our ancestors for so long.
So yeah, maybe I would buy a $3000 amp for $20. You a crackhead and take from normal folk, you get crackhead wages. Then you have to steal again for your next fix and there is another chance for you to get caught or killed.
I do not fuck around with criminals, my gun is always at the ready.
its just a serial number the unit is intact and like you said the little tab fell off the rear plaque.
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