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I ran across this website recently and thought I would share the info with other inmates who might be interested.
I have no affiliation with the owner of the site, nor can I vouch for accuracy. But personally, I think it's a great idea.
See link below
Sue Kraft
The Audio Beat
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I got an impression most of tubes come from Eastern Europe or China today?
No Quicksilver???
This is good. I know it is a ton of work but maybe add where other popular items are made. I did this way back when with "Who owns what" on my site. I have not updated it in years but I wish someone would.
http://www.helarc.com/
see menu: "who owns what"
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As I slowly slip into the dark cesspool of audiophalia neurosis. . . .
My speaker building site
Lot's of us here have made in our basements!
Nice! Great build. Love the woodwork.
There's nothing wrong with a little pride in one's own domestic products. That's kind of what all the fuss is about. Especially in the USA where we used to make EVERYTHING and now make much less. High end audio is one of those areas where there is still a lot of USA manufacturing involvement. And I think it's OK to be proud of it.
Way to go! Sue.
I put it in my favorites for future reference.
enjoy,
mark
Hi Folks - This is my site and it's interesting to see the comments here. I'm a long-time Asylum lurker, but infrequent poster.
I created the site mainly because I'm interested in every detail of my system, including where it's made. I have a music blog and at one point posted my system which happened to be all US-made. I started posting other US brands I knew and the page became one of the most visited on the site.
Of course, there are wonderful components from all over the world, and I believe that global trade is healthy. Everyone will have their own reason for wanting to buy a particular component. For me, it's just one factor that I find particularly interesting, and truly some of the world's finest audio components come from American companies. There are other regions that I think would benefit from a similar site, I've had a surprising number of requests for a Canadian counterpart, for example.
I've learned that there is a tremendous amount of confusion and obfuscation in what audio companies claim. Before anyone comments further on "Made in USA" vs. "Assembled in USA" I would urge you to read my post describing the FTC guidelines: http://americanmadeaudio.com/2016/06/25/made-usa-standard-guidelines-audio-equipment-manufacturers-consumers/
I predict that one of the results of creating this site is that there will be more clarity and transparency about the creation of the components we love.
The site is new, and there are still a large number of companies to add. Thanks for the list above, there are a few that I haven't found yet. Every company gets a free listing with name, location, and product categories. You can imagine how much work it would be to maintain complete listings of over 150 companies with images and links, so I make those features available to companies for a small annual fee. This will help cover the fairly substantial costs of creating and maintaining the site.
I appreciate the site because I like to support domestic industry when I can. We have lost a lot of manufacturing work here and aside from the obvious economic problems it has caused a certain segment of the population, I am more worried that the lack of these kinds of jobs is eroding another, more precious resource which is the love of engineering and the craft of building.
I'm not averse to buying stuff from other countries.. I'm a big fan of Japanese products and go out of my way to find them as well as British products. In fact, I have links to similar sights for Japanese stuff and Brit stuff.
Just because a person is pro-American products shouldn't automatically mean they are against anything else! I love good stuff no matter where it comes from, but as an American, I really like having a resource that allows a quicker way of choosing something made in the USA when all else is equal.
Great site!
Thanks MannyE -
Not sure what the point of your post is. Are you advocating that American inmates restrict their hifi purchases to U.S. made products (really mostly designed and/or assembled here with foreign made parts)?
So Rick.... because he is pro USA means he has to be anti-everything else? This is the kind of thinking that's ruining everything.
He can be pro-USA products AND pro any other country's products too. No need to choose a "side." Good stuff comes from all over.
In my case I will buy from wherever, but I have no problem picking a product made here in my own country over one made elsewhere if the two are equal or darn near equal.
nt
...is that the website "American Made Audio" might be worth checking out. It certainly has sparked an interesting discussion.
Sue Kraft
The Audio Beat
Nt
Please correct me if I'm wrong, China is the only country that manipulates the value of their currency to wage a form of economic warfare on the rest of the world.
The fact that so many things will never be made elsewhere are the result of governments asleep at their wheels.
Will cable, tubing, bearings, fittings, steel, aluminum, copper, plastics, chemicals and pharmaceuticals, eventually fall under Chinese control?
Everybody with the means to do so manipulates the value of their currency, it just differs in what it is called officially.
If others do it it is blatant manipulation, if you do it yourself it is called quantitive easing.
Japan and S Korea manipulate their currencies as well.
.., Chinese control over manufacturing is not thought to be that big of an issue. Not yet, at least.Economy and politics is about "leverage" - who has it, who does not.
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I have a research laboratory and we use a variety of specialty chemicals some which we require in bulk. I happened to be looking at the container that came in the day before uyesterday (ammonium sulfate if anyone cares) and saw that it was made in China. Punchline: as far as I am concerned any made in America labeling is pretty much advertising fodder
Obviously made in America EXCEPT for the main parts which were made in... China.
OK - CONSTRUCTED in America.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
nothing surprising here
How it was initially a masterpiece of cooperation, vision, hard work, forward thinking, grace .
Then contrast THAT history with the modern post Loma Prieta history which is a text book example
failure of all the above combined with a government bureaucratic system that is so incredibly
FUBAR as to be more terrifying than any terrorist can hope to be.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...and if assembled here, it can be called "American Made." It does create some assembly labor here, but does nothing for the manufacturing and raw material industries here.
Something is better than nothing, though.
What to do with the waste and the filth generated by the manufacturing and raw materials industries? Taking care of the environment properly is not a cost-effective option in many cases.It has been decreed and agreed that other nations should handle (or mis-handle) the messier aspects of production.
We probably could have taken on a bit more of the remaining final assembly and packaging work - if we had really wanted to. But those are the types of repetitious and low-paying "labor" jobs thought of as suitable for lowly Mexican immigrants and/or robots.
So here some of us sit, with lofty aspirations and idle hands.
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That would be nice. Just a simple list isn't all that helpful.
Jack
Neither under The List or component category could I find any links to the named company. So this all looks like a bit of work that could be much more useful with just one more step.
"The piano ain't got no wrong notes." Thelonious Monk
I would like to know of an audio component made with only "made in the USA" parts. It might be possible.
I know Nelson Pass used USA made output semiconductors for the J2 and SIT1/2 but that company is no longer in business. Are there any output devices made here? No question there is no tube manufacturing here.
"American made" would include the entire Americas. That is how Chrysler and other automakers make their claim of AMERICAN MADE cars even though they are assembled in Canada and Mexico. I mention Chrysler since their claim was especially egregious. Maybe they have dropped it by now, I do not know.
Not to discourage those assembling their products in the US but let's be honest those components have most of their parts coming from other countries.
Even the cable companies - they might use USA made cable but are there any high quality connectors made here? I am not aware of any. Would enjoy being corrected!
But only assembled here.
You know which car has the highest content of domestically-sourced components? Toyota Camry at 70%.
There is no beer in food, but there is food in beer.
Of the top eight containing at least 75%, two are Toyotas and three are Hondas.edit: correct count!
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apart from the companies' promoting themselves. If there is an open call for submissions, as a reviewer I have worked with the following companies, I'm sure some of which have not appeared yet on the list. I did not forge through the entire list in comparison to the American Made Audio site, so forgive any duplications or submissions of company(s) which may no longer be viable.
SST (Spread Spectrum Technologies) pre/amp/DAC
Legacy Audio speakers
Vapor Audio speakers
Red Dragon amps
Exogal DAC/amp
Van Alstine pre/amp
Silnote Audio cables
Silent Source cables
Morrow Audio cables
Snake River Audio cables
Wells Audio pre/amp/integrated
Jones Audio (cannot confirm company online) amp
Empirical Audio digital
Daedalus Audio speakers
Purity Audio pre/amp
Salk Sound speakers
Coda Technologies pre/amp
Clarity Cable
VAC pre/amp
INEX Innovation cables
MIT cables
Peachtree Audio amp/DAC/ headphone amp/speakers
Wire world cables
Moscode amp
Rogue Audio pre/amp/integrated
Monarchy Audio amp/DAC
McIntosh pre/amp
Eminent Technology speakers
Magnan Cables
Channel Islands Audio pre/amp/power
Benchmark Media DAC/ADC/amp/cables/speakers
Von Schweikert speakers
Jena Labs cables
Now, having supported my own country's small manufacturers, I must be honest and state that I find no direct link between superior sound quality and the origin of a component. However, if one wishes to buy locally versus globally it is indeed possible to obtain sound quality at the highest levels. i.e. No country or region has a lock on superior sound.
The greatest impediment to advancing an audiophile system is the audiophile.
Yes, if there is a company who is not on The List and you are sure that they manufacture audio products at a location in the United States, let me know. Be sure to check The List first: http://americanmadeaudio.com/the-list/
Decware is here: http://americanmadeaudio.com/product/decware/
Magnepan is here: http://americanmadeaudio.com/product/magnepan-speakers/
Von Schweikert is here: http://americanmadeaudio.com/product/von-schweikert-audio-speakers/
Joseph Audio is not on the list. They have declined to participate and I agree with their assessment. You can read my article on FTC guidelines for claiming "Made in USA" here: http://americanmadeaudio.com/2016/06/25/made-usa-standard-guidelines-audio-equipment-manufacturers-consumers/
"Now, having supported my own country's small manufacturers, I must be honest and state that I find no direct link between superior sound quality and the origin of a component. However, if one wishes to buy locally versus globally it is indeed possible to obtain sound quality at the highest levels. i.e. No country or region has a lock on superior sound."
Very nicely stated Doug, and I am in complete agreement.
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... Audiokinesis, Sonist Audio, Direct Acoustics.
Edits: 07/17/16
nt
Made in China, at least the VR4jr that I reviewed was.
Sue Kraft
The Audio Beat
I read a while back in an avert from Von Schweikert that they had moved all of their manufacturing back to the US. They do still source components from Scanspeak , etc.
enjoy,
mark
I had the original VR4s. They were made in the US. The build quality wasn't terrific. I did like the way the sounded. I actually still do and hear them occasionally at a friend's house who now possesses them. I saw the later Chinese made versions at a dealer's and the China made cabinets seemed superior to me to the originals made in the US.
This is very useful and a great idea. Especially in that it lists the types of equipment each company makes.
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