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In Reply to: RE: It's true that posted by E-Stat on June 18, 2016 at 09:26:24
I have about 800 CD's, approximately 10% of which are jazz, female vocalists & film soundtracks. The other 90% are classical which are arranged chronologically by composer. The equipment is always powered on. There is no elaborate ritual or time involved in selecting a CD, placing it in the transport and sitting down to listen. I have a dedicated room and my wife is not at all interested in music or equipment. There is no need for me to access the library and play it throughout the house.
Perhaps the never ending cycle of popular music releases necessitates access to a streaming source offering such variety but I have no need of it. The classical selection was carefully built up over years through much research, trial and error. It quite adequately satisfies my needs at my age.
Consequently, my system is very simple, although the price of admission was high.
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I keep reading threads like this and never see much of anything devoted to the way computer audio SOUNDS. In my experience, listening to four systems where it was possible to compare music-from-CD to music-from-server, there was never any question in my mind as to which sounded better.
Of course there's the convenience factor and I'm sure it would be real convenient to rip my 1100+ CDs and SACDs (what, you can't rip SACDs? Who knew?), but I'd just as soon spend the time in some old-fashioned, retro way.
Besides, I spend most listening time with vinyl and open reel tape, so I'm a hopeless case anyway :-)
Besides, I spend most listening time with vinyl and open reel tape
That's the most compelling reason for folks like you.
Can't speak for the computer based systems you've heard, but my arrangement of a linear powered Touch via a remotely located server through an Audio Research DAC8 offers more realism than the previous GamuT CD-1 player.
And I have a uRendu player on order which is said to be much better. :)
Thanks for the instant psychoanalysis. Where do I send the five cents ?
:-)
Seriously, my audiobuddies' systems reflect many decades of experience and knowhow. If they find it very difficult to equal the sonics they achieved back in the BC era, a computer illiterate like me ain't likely to find nirvana following in their footsteps. I assume you'd rather I followed in yours but that isn't real likely either. Sorry.
All I meant was that if you don't listen to digital content, i.e."Besides, I spend most listening time with vinyl and open reel tape"
then using a better and more convenient way is moot. I follow the music. If you limit yourself to those media, then you will be missing out on decades of content.
I assume you'd rather I followed in yours but that isn't real likely either. Sorry.
No. To each his own. I'm not a horn enthusiast, either. :)
Clearly, you haven't heard a computer server based transport at its best. After all, that's how all recordings have been made for the past twenty years or so. :)
Edits: 06/18/16
Computer power supplies offer a very noisy environment. I have selected my equipment for simplicity and purity always having in mind the old principle of straight wire with gain. It is no more than it needs to be. My dedicated room design supports that low noise floor. Computer technology can only deviate from it.
I do not wish to complicate things and compromise sound quality for mere accessibility and convenience. I also do not want to be dependent on what some outside source thinks things should sound like and have to pay for it.
Computer power supplies offer a very noisy environment.
They do. Which is why the server is located on another floor of the house hundreds of feet from the listening room. Playback is via a small appliance in the room connected via Ethernet.
I still find it valuable to be able to quickly switch from one album to another. Or, compare one conductor's version of a movement to that of another.
To each his own.
Several things appeal to me here in my retirement. I am not dependent on anything outside of my room, except for electricity, of course. Also, I feel I have everything I will ever need for my musical enjoyment.
I occasionally do buy a highly recommended CD but my current library is quite inclusive and comprehensive. I am not critical of anyone such as yourself choosing a different path. However, for my personal needs that choice involves all too much fuss, clutter and additional and unnecessary expense for provider services.
However, for my personal needs that choice involves all too much fuss, clutter and additional and unnecessary expense for provider services.Largely for the benefit of others who may read this post:
1. The "fuss" is eliminated by the increasing number of releases available by downloads. My library contains a fairly good sized collection of high resolution releases. Even for rips, there is no question that I spend less time for the one time capture and eliminate ongoing time required for every subsequent access. It's no different from the benefit of using electronic document management vs. storing and retrieving paper files. And yes, all of my financial records are stored electronically. I don't do paper any more. Don't have any clue as to the "clutter". The wall of CDs can be eliminated.
2. Perhaps your environment is different, but quite a few households today already have a home network infrastructure. Ours is used not only for music, but streaming movies both via internet providers and from content on the server. It also supports the security cameras.
3. There are no "provider services" required for me to stream music from my server via my network to my players. Perhaps you are thinking of dependence via the subscription services such as Tidal, Spotify, etc. Since two of our cars have XM access, we can also stream their content over the 'net, but that has nothing to do with my music library. At no expense, I regularly stream music from a wide range of classical radio stations.
Maybe it helps that I am an IT guy. :)
Edits: 06/18/16
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