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In Reply to: RE: The Pics Submitted on AA the Past Few Weeks........ posted by Todd Krieger on May 09, 2016 at 15:09:40
Sorry, but I'm just not moved by unsupported or anecdotal statements found in posts by jedrider and you. We've already seen his *perception* is not supported by fact.
Show us some data. In which of those two extremes do you inhabit?
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"Sorry, but I'm just not moved by unsupported or anecdotal statements found in posts by jedrider and you. We've already seen his *perception* is not supported by fact."That's all it is... Perception.... Doesn't mean you have to agree with it.....
When someone perceives the sky being blue, does he have to supply spectrophotometer data to back up what he perceived? (There might not be one such instance in human history.)
"Show us some data. In which of those two extremes do you inhabit?"
I think I'm one of the few who are "in between"... But another observer might not agree either.
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Perception.... Doesn't mean you have to agree with it....
Indeed. Your speculation is as good as anyone else's.
On the other hand, it took two minutes to disprove jed's "perception" with facts.
I'm one of those who prefer accepting reality than living in an imaginary world. :)
I'll give you a story of not much in between.
The boating industry. Like hi-fi it is a costly, unnecessary luxury. 30 to 40 years ago the biggest part of new boat sales was in the middle, 29-31ft boats. Weekenders for a small family. Then there was the 18ft boats at the low end, and 40+ft boats on the high end.
These days the middle of that market has all but disappeared. New boat sales are 95% on the high end or the low end.
This is a well known fact in the boating industry and the info is readily available on the net, so I'm not looking it up. You may discount it therefore if you wish.
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Big speakers and little amps blew my mind!
This is a well known fact in the boating industry
What I would like to see is some facts to support Todd's assertion about the audio industry. Sorry, but I couldn't care less about boats.
Perhaps you might think similarly of the auto industry, but today's Honda Accord sedan can outperform many 60's icons like the Jaguar XK-E and Aston-Martin DB5. High end performance is now available to everyone.
He can't provide them. How about you? Anyone?
Any whiners out there have anything of substance to offer?
I've met bare foot peasants that have cell phones. They still live in shanty towns, though.
If our incomes are higher today, the landlord class is getting most of it, so it is not available for audio pursuits.
You're confusing technology with being well off
I grew up where the family TV was a 19" Zenith B&W. The family car was loaded - had AM radio and AC.
If our incomes are higher today...
If? That's what the data proves.
the landlord class is getting most of it, so it is not available for audio pursuits.
Why are there so many whiners here?
> Sorry, but I couldn't care less about boats.
It's an analogy.
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Big speakers and little amps blew my mind!
It's an analogy.
But doesn't necessarily apply to the audio industry. Trickle down technology and knowledge found in audio is different from disciplines that are based upon traditional construction techniques.
Are there any boats available today found at one-tenth the cost of comparable features and performance from ten years ago?
Where do you get the factor of ten thing?
Is a Yamaha amp ten times better, or ten times cheaper than one was ten years ago? No to both.
Has the Quad ESL ever been equaled or surpassed? Trick question. I see you own Soundlabs. :)
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Big speakers and little amps blew my mind!
Where do you get the factor of ten thing?
That would be availability of today's gear vs that of the past.
Is a Yamaha amp ten times better, or ten times cheaper than one was ten years ago? No to both.
Not referring to Yamaha.
Has the Quad ESL ever been equaled or surpassed?
I first heard the Levinson HQD system back in '77. Dayton-Wrights were superior even back then.
Quad ElS 63 I used for several years but found TL speakers to be better.
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