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In Reply to: RE: CT's Perspective posted by Luminator on August 25, 2015 at 21:11:28
They are well-written, thoughtful, and just plain fun. It appears that I'm about 15+ years older than you, based upon your musical influences. And, please don't take this the wrong way, but it's a wee bit sad that your generation really missed the boat when it comes to rock music. I saw many of the seminal bands - The Who, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Uriah Heap, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Santana, Jethro Tull, Yes, ELP, and on and on - on their 1st or 2nd US tours. Again, IMHO, the 80s bands pale in comparison - it's not even close. And their pouty, lipstick-encrusted lips and blow-dried hair just looks ridiculous to me. To each his own, I suppose.
I was fortunate enough to come of age musically in the late 60s and early 70s. And I also had pretty good sound systems to support my record collection. Additionally, in the late 70s I got a couple gigs with several of the hi-end audio salons in the DC area. This allowed me to spend untold hours listening to great music on great systems. I never did make a lot of money at it, but to this day those are still my favorite jobs - I actually wanted to go to work every day, imagine that!
Keep up the good work, mate!
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"It appears I'm about 15+ years older than you, based on you musical influences."
I'm in the generation BETWEEN yours and the OP. Your insight on the music scene(rock)
Is pretty much how I've felt. My generation didn't really produce a Clapton,Hendrix etc. By the mid 70's other stuff was developing. While musicianship was still there, visual "show antics"seemed to become important -Alice Cooper?Kiss(okay, they were part of my JHS years,drop kicked them by HS)
By late 70s rock REALLY branches off-punk,new wave etc. By the time I finished high school, I thought most bands that DIDNT come out of the 60s /70's were either ridiculous,or a lame ripoff.
Perhaps catching Aerosmith during their Rocks tour or Van Halen on their first arena tour or maybe AC/DC being the unknown opening band for Aerosmith is about as close to compare to what you've experienced. While I like the post 70's movements, it gets very dicey by the 80's.
I'm jealous hearing my older brothers experiences similar to yours.
Oh well, at least I can still buy just about any period record in great shape for cheap!
During the Spring '93 quarter, my very last class at UCSC was American Popular Music. I took it, only because I needed the elective to graduate. And it turned out, by far, to be the most memorable, useful, educational, and enlightening class. Four years of college, and it was American Popular Music, which had the greatest impact on me.
The professor was probably 50 years old, and had this way with quips. In addition to this class, he taught classical piano. He scanned the audience, looked a few students in the eye, and said, "Some of you are my piano pupils. That automatically disqualifies you for this class. You can take your NP [No Pass], leave, and when I see you in piano, you better have done an extra hour of scales."
He told us that he was an audiophile [during lecture, he did prefer to play vinyl over other formats] and was always making fun of "Classical Snobs." Then he'd stop, and go, "Oh wait. I am one!"
The professor continued, "Classical music, as we all know, has been around forever ." He paused. "Hmmm," he mused, "Jesus never heard Beethoven's Ninth. He didn't even know what a violin was." The class erupted in applause.
When it came time to cover rock of the late-60s and early-70s, the students (UCSC* was full of wannabe hippies) collectively relaxed, let out an "Ahhhhh," and enjoyed the music. The professor described how Led Zep took from blues, folk, R&B, Moroccan, Asian, and other influences. Then he quipped, "Okay, while you are gettin' stoned, know that many of you were conceived, when your parents listened to this." He peered at the audience. Then he said, "When this came out, some of you younger kids weren't even a dirty thought in your parents' mind."
He stared at the back of the auditorium, and joked, "I know you guys. I hear your Doors, Grateful Dead, and Led Zep blaring from the dorms. If you guys aren't careful, while listening to this music, a new generation of Dead Heads will be conceived."
After the audience gathered itself, the professor sagely said that we students were lucky. We may have missed the boat on 70s "classic rock," but we were in position to enjoy not just the then-current music, but that from eras past.
I know, I know, a large part of us thinks of 70s rock as "our own [as a child in the late-70s, I was raised on San Francisco's KMEL, which, at the time, was actually a rock station]." But I do not think it is a bad thing that newer generations know quite a bit about 70s rock. My own kids are in elementary school. They and their classmates know, sing, and enjoy songs from the likes of Aerosmith, Barry White, Boston, Cheap Trick [it is kind of weird, as a parent, to hear little kids sing "Surrender"], CSNY, David Bowie, the Doobie Brothers, the Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Kiss, Parliament, Steely Dan, The Who, Traffic, and War.
I don't know about other audiophiles, but I grew up, sharing music. Obviously, each person had his or her personal preference. But by sharing music, we got to expand the musical palette, meet more people, make more friends, fall in and out of love, dance, kick ass in sports, and just weave another thread in the fabric of life. The audio is always secondary to the music itself.
I'm not going to stomp on anyone's enjoyment of her music. I thoroughly enjoy reading other audiophiles talk about where they were, when they first heard a certain piece of music; what they were doing; what the times were like; how the music moved or did not move them. I would hope that the audiophiles can set aside their jealousy and petty hatred, and share more of their experiences and music.
* In case you have forgotten or did not know, UCSC's McHenry Library houses a Grateful Dead archive.
I agree with and represent everything in your post except the part about enjoying his (self absorbed) posts. However, I'm pretty sure we all realize that every generation thinks that the music of it's time is "the best" and that everyone else's pales in comparison.
I wonder how old he is.
Judging from the time line, 42-46 yrs. old.
Oz
Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
- Winston Churchill
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