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Tinnitus can be a bitch. Did you try inserting them into your ears in both directions?
...to deal with a directional fuse that might take a few months to break in. I imagine enduring an extended period of degraded listening, then starting again to find whether I got the polarity right. Life is too short for that.
more appropriate.
[Somebody probably already said this. :)]
is still occupying the ears of audiophiles.
Likely more difficult and expensive to harvest than the 'ol beeswax.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
... is actually easier and cheaper than harvesting beeswax. So once again I find the high cost of premium earwax products to be confusing.
I was thinking of -- perhaps -- elephant's ear wax.
You don't know what you're missing until you've heard $2000 Ethernet cable.
What's next? A fuse modelled after a Molotov cocktail?
A Good Molotov cocktail (mason jar), or a Bad...Molotov cocktail (wine bottle).
IME, the only truly bad molotovs are the ones made from drinkboxes.
and just think... when the power goes out you can use it as a candle! :-)
Excellent and humorous comments -guys.
Have you heard them even a bit?
Over on Tweakers' Asylum, a small handful of people who have actually tried the Audio Magic Premier Beeswax have kindly and maturely shared their experiences. Arm yourself with those experiences, and ask yourself, would such a product, given your equipment, budget, timeline, and tastes, work for you?
I originally got to try these, because one of my audio friends had them in his Sonic Frontiers gear, which he sold, gave away, or lent out. Since his replacement gear (Bryston) did not have the same fuse ratings as his SF stuff, he lent me his old AM fuses.
None of my audio friends has tried the 32mm versions, so we are not at liberty to comment. We have tried numerous 20mm Beeswax fuses in a wide variety of gear. Over on Tweakers' Asylum, I've already provided links to my first two posts about the Premier Beeswax. Here are my next two:
Part 3
Part 4
Warning. My friend ACS likened the beeswax to human semen. There's been a buzz (pardon the expression) amongst us audiophiles about that imagery.
Warning. Disregard what Audio Magic say; the Premier Beeswax is indeed directional. Personally, I've used these in Adcom, Headamp, Mark Levinson, NoForce, Rotel, and Simaudio electronics. In each and every fuse holder, the Premier Beeswax will sound better in one direction, versus the other.
Warning. A new Premier Beeswax can take weeks, or even months, to "burn-in." You'll know, because until the fuse does burn in, the treble will be way too small, making the mids and bass appear too warm and bloated. Although a pricey proposition, the other way we determined burn-in was by comparing a brand-new sample, versus an identical one, which had been used.
The Premier Beeswax's influence is unlike any other after-market fuse we have tried. I've said and written this many times. The Premier Beeswax does a unique job in bringing out whatever instrumental textures your sources can dish out. By (a) reducing grain, and (b) not resorting to the usual colorations, the Premier Beeswax can, given the right source material, preserve that illusion of "instruments sounding like instruments."
If you go to my homepage, you'll find that I'm reviewing the Simaudio Neo 260D. My next post will be about the Neo 260D using two of the Premier Beeswax fuses. If you take out the Premier Beeswaxes, and put in, for example, the Synergistic Research Quantum Red, the latter will sound "artificial." As another Inmate told me, "It's like going from the San Francisco Symphony to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra."
Again, this isn't about "better" or "worse." It's about giving an honest description of the sonic changes. Again, you can take this information, and then ask yourself, "Do I want my existing or future stereo to sound more like the San Francisco Symphony, or the Trans-Siberian Orchestra?" If your answer is the former, then the Premier Beeswax is more economical and honest than, for example, kilobuck powercords or even-more-expensive NOS vacuum tubes.
If your answer is the latter, then you can skip the Premier Beeswax, and not waste your time, money, and hearing.
The Audiophiles' DJ,
-Lummy The Loch Monster
Hi Lummy
I'd be interested in hearing your thought on these compared to no fuse at all.
I've used budget AMR gold fuses and imo a direct 'no fuse' connection sounded better. Similar to hard wiring a power cord, losing a plug and socket.
Yes, it's a risk I know but accept.
Smart
I seem to recall fluid filled interconnects and speaker wires back in the 1990s.
People love a good story.
Eppur si muove
Well, there's always those magic rocks ... and let us not forget all those
wonderful fluids that make you CDs and LPs sound better ...
As a very wise man once said, if you don't believe it you won't see it.
I'm waiting for oxygen-free house wiring for the dedicated wiring to your "fantabulous MK III" But, then there is the problem with the plain copper wire everywhere else.
:/)
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...Aluminum is used in a lot of situations and the HV long distance stuff is aluminum over a steel core. Yuck. Good thing only the last few feet are what really counts. ;-)
Looks cuter than a pair of bees knees
The buzz on these is pretty good!
No other fuse can hold a candle to these.
Even at $175, these are a honey of deal.
This fuse is great for getting all of the bugs out of your equipment.
I won't send these back, I re-fuse!!!
Laughing...
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Jim
http://jimtranr.com
I've combed the planet and can't find a better tweak.
They totally take the sting out of what WAS a etched high end.
Try This or you're YELLOW.
I'm out of 'b' humor.
Too much is never enough
Actually, um, to my pleasant surprise, dang things work pretty good. I just installed a pair of the Premieres (one down from the beeswax)in my phono preamp. I was going to start my boutique fuse adventure with a Premiere in my Atma OTL amp, but I (duh!) ordered the wrong size (20mm instead of 30mm). So I figured what the hell and put them in my DSA Phono II instead (no return policy, darn it).
But: immediate improvement, even without break-in or orientation optimization, so I'm actually happy about my little faux pas (better to be lucky than smart!).
Benefits: more impact (I noticed that first), less grundge, more sweetness from the violins. Overall sound more solid. I like 'em.
Drawbacks: none that I have found so far. They're just a regular, UL-rated fuse with some damping material stuffed in them through a tiny drill hole. Could the damping fluid have some impact on heat dissipation inside the fuse? No idea. Could the damping material actually keep the wire from completely separating when (if) the fuse blows? Not a clue. Might exotic materials in the endcaps and filament improve it even more? Who knows (actually, some of you guys might)?
Might a beeswax filling sound better than what's in there now? You got me. I'm very happy for now, though.
I was only referring to the beeswax fuses. I couldn't stop laughing this morning when a friend called to tell me there were beeswax fuses for sale on Audiogon. I'm still laughing.....my bad lol
I did purchase several hifi tuning fuses for my former DNA-500 amp. When I sold the amp I tossed the fuses in my audio junk drawer. Not that the fuses didn't make an improvement, I've just not installed tem in another component yet.
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My favorite line is: "Audio Magic uses Beeswax instead of the normal anti vibration fluid, this gives the fuse a very organic flavor..." LOL
Taken from the website, below:
"Brand new, just released - Audio Magic latest fuse in the Premiere line - The "Beeswax" Premiere Super Fuse. The Beeswax version is identical to the Premiere version the only difference is Audio Magic uses Beeswax instead of the normal anti vibration fluid, this gives the fuse a very organic flavor but maintains the detail, dynamics and everything the Premier does. The production of this fuse is very difficult, very hard to get the Beeswax into the fuse but the organic sound is too good to ignore.
Audio Magic Premiere SUPER fuse:
The Audio Magic Premiere SUPER fuse incorporates Audio Magic's anti vibration fluid to stop the element from vibrating at 50/60 hz and then the blackout powder super mix to absorb all EMI and RFI riding the element as well as ambient sources and insert a new HRC core which allows the signal to travel through the fuse in a more cohesive and linear manner. The Premier SUPER fuse is 30% better than the Audio Magic's original SUPER fuse in every way!
Much more detail top to bottom, wider and deeper soundstage, much better inner detail, layering, and a lot more air around instruments and voices."
Valid point if I were in the habit of eating fuses.Otherwise a steaming pile of BS which I suspect also would have a 'very organic flavor'.
Edits: 07/18/15
> > insert a new HRC core which allows the signal to travel through the fuse in a more cohesive and linear manner. < <
Exactly what "signal" is "traveling" thru the fuse? From what I know about electricity (BSEE, BTW) there is NO signal passing thru the fuse, only 120v AC.
This smacks of snake oil in its purest form. You'd have to be out of your mind to pay $175 for this product. *Maybe* $1.75....
-RW-
It would seem pretty clear that they're implying the use of these things as speaker fuses in the quote you posted.
And since my speakers aren't fused, I just saved myself $350!
"You won't come back from Fletcher-Munson curve"-Jan and Dean
Most everyone who has "experience" with these seems to be using them in electronics, not speakers. So, pray tell, what signal is traversing a fuse in such an application?
-RW-
Which doesn't include me.
Once, just for gits and shiggles, I tried wrapping the glass body of an amp's AC fuse in Teflon plumbers tape, based on some posts in Tweakers.
I didn't hear a damn bit of difference.
"You won't come back from Fletcher-Munson curve"-Jan and Dean
What's really a bummer is if one of these fuses were to blow............
...Guess this is another case of "no cost is too great when in service of the music". I wonder if these "tweaked" fuses carry a UL listing. Bet not.
are as unfamiliar with a UL listing as Northern California is with steady rain.
Power cords immediately spring to mind.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
N/T
"Science" marches on...
(improvement here) an audiophile grade fuse can make, then, no.
Directionality is imperative too.
Where's it end? Who cares, it's a hobby.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...and own several of them, but none with beeswax.
I was not aware there was a thread on tweaks about beeswax fuses. My apologizes.
and it would make COMPLETE sense you've used audiophile fuses.
Aren't familiar with the beeswax ones either (just read about 'em).
NOTHING surprises me with this hobby, not one darn thing.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...no need to apologize.
Sounds strange but then so do many other tweaks.
And then there's geoffkait...
Someone ought to make a few of those and see how they stack up.
...on Tweeks about how to make these yourself.
None of my Bees Wax to comment...
"None of your bees wax" was an expression I heard as a kid. I understood it meant none of my business but could never figure out how that related.
"You can't know what the "best" is unless you have heard everything, and keep in mind that given individual tastes, there really isn't any such thing." HP
as Paul Harvey use to say on his newscasts. Guess I was correct but didn't know it.
"You can't know what the "best" is unless you have heard everything, and keep in mind that given individual tastes, there really isn't any such thing." HP
Does any one else think these may act as a comb filter?
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