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In Reply to: RE: Why the industry can't afford BT or DBT listening tests posted by stehno on March 30, 2015 at 19:46:32
Their are 2 (TWO) aspects to not being up to speed the moment of install.
Warmup happens to both SS and Tube gear. Some transitors apparently work best when warmed slightly from ambient. I think it was the Phase Linear 400 of a LONG time ago that had this problem in spades.
Warmup may also effect insulated product, like cables and interconnects. I'm becoming aware of a class of phenom dealing with insulation and 'saturation' of insulation during use.
The other aspect is one of the LISTENER. I've been semi-trashed (most were on the polite side, I'll admit) when I simply asserted that lots of breakin was YOU, not the GEAR. This is over longer time periods and not the short time stuff like cap formation and insulator saturation.
Maybe MORE, but this is what occurs to me, off the top.
To the extent that the above is valid, it's also a reason for DBT to be on the Very Difficult end of the spectrum to get right, IN PRACTICE.
Too much is never enough
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BTW, as mentioned before, I'm well aware how easily some-to-many can be influenced or have their minds play tricks on them as you say.
But you take this fact to such an extreme as though everybody can be easily dup'ed or persuaded.
That's the silly part. That's like saying ALL politicians are corrupt when it takes just one straight shooting politician to negate that entire statement.
You wanna' say some-to-many are potentially dup'ed when they think they hear things, I can live with that.
You wanna' say that every time anybody claims to hear an improvement that it's their mind playing tricks on them, well, my imaginary friend and I think you have very serious issues..
Anyway, good chattin' with you.
Yes, Leo, I'm well aware of your stance here which I always find surprising. Especially with your background.
But hey, you're still a swell guy. :)
That's a very good question.
IS there anyone with hearing which is beyond even perfect pitch? Will someones memory or a particular 'signiture' be so good as to identify a particular piece of gear MONTHS after last hearing it? Or even longer? Is there anyone out there who can RELIABLY (statistically speaking) identify when SILVER is used in an interconnect? One person I 'spoke' with hates tinned wire in a power cable. And BLACK insulation!
I always think of the movie where a crime is committed and all the witnesses tell different stories.
I think it was a Kurosawa movie?
I know that a movie with Forest Whitaker uses a similar device. Vantage Point is the movie. A crime is committed and you see it from a bunch of different viewpoints and from different observers.
I view stereo the same way. A bunch of persons in a room and all hearing the same thing. Or ARE they?
Experience is subjective.
Too much is never enough
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