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It has been interesting to read about the predictions of the imminent demise of the CD. My collection of CDs is reasonably large at just over 1200 and has continued to grow at about the same pace of 2 per month or so. So how large are your collections and is it growing?
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I just bought a 17-CD set of Maria Jao Piires on Erato for about US$32 delivered.
That sounds like a bargain and a half. Care to share?
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
(nt)
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
. . . plenty of small indies would keep making them, and millions of people worldwide have substantial enough collections that the market for compatible players (be they dedicated RBCD, Blu-ray, or whatever) will remain viable. Many of us are happy enough with "pretty good sound for a real long time" that we're gonna keep listening to what we have, rather than buying everything over again as downloads, no matter how high-rez.
IMO, Cd's played back thru CDP, beats PC playback any and all time .....
Regards ...
An educated guess, educated because I looked at the shelves and totes.I would say maybe 1300-1500 commercial and 300 or 400 burned ones for backups, car trips,house project mixes etc. They may die one of these days, but around this house they will live for years to come.They hang out right next to my vinyl so the longevity of vinyl may rub off on the CD's and give them a second life as well ............
IMO there is no imminent demise of CDs/SACDs. I have around 1000 stil buy new & s/hand absolutely no interest in PC audio
Yeah, who has any interest with instantly accessing any digital content in your library across multiple systems simultaneously?
Shuffling disks in and out of jewel cases and transports is especially fulfilling. :)
No problem taking CDs out of Jewel boxes
I have interest in PC audio, but in the realm of watching online performances..... When it comes to audio media, sure I'd like the convenience, but I've yet to encounter a server-based source that I prefer over a good CD rig.
My current setup is better than the GamuT CD-1 it replaced. The server is located either on a different floor of the house than where the systems are found or are at great distance. And my content is definitely larger than three album's worth.
I use dedicated AC lines, shielded aftermarket power cords and balanced interconnects but confess I don't have quite the bugaboo over RF that you do.
In the end, it is about access to musical content to me. I have turntables in two systems, but I have vast amounts of favorites that are simply not available on vinyl.
If I'm not mistaken inmate ted_b used to own multiple Sony 400-disc changers on shelves all link together so he could manage his CD library.
now a designer for PS Audio...
I have to smile about all the mechanization involved with those transports. I once owned a Pioneer 300 disc jukebox, too.
Unlike a music server, it was quite a process to switch tracks on different disks. The ability to select anything you want with your phone or pad device and create play lists on the fly far eclipses those days... :)
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Haven't counted lately, but somewhere between 8-10,000. And growing. Good thing I don't drink coffee, as Starbucks has done nothing to reduce the numbers. My goal is to hear every piece of music worth hearing.
but I rarely buy them anymore. Bought an old Art Pepper CD the other day off amazon and I thought you know it's been a while. No "new" music is worth buying and I have most of the "old" music I want. Also have about 700 titles on 2 hard drives.
Lost (stopped)count many years ago after a spate of Record Store closing (Tower and Virgin ) and several years of Record Fairs...where I acquired 300-400 each outing.
nt
Approx 500 or so... Still growing but not as fast as when they first came out.
I'm a lot more picky than I used to be and tend to collect ones that have a LOT of songs that I like.
Who cares about the number as long as you're...
Happy Listening!
DeeCee
I haven't counted them, but based on the CD racks, the ones lying around the place, I'd say roughly 800.
Sometimes I wonder about the massive collections. People with say 10,000 CDs at an average of 45 minutes per CD is equal to 450,000 minutes or 7,500 hours. Assuming they listen 10 hours a day to music (which seems high depending on what does for a living) is still ~750 days to get through the entire collection if you listened 10 hours every day 24/7.
90% of the time I shuffle by one group, or one genre or better yet by a few genres. I never really know what is coming and enjoy this method to the max.
And with a large collection I do not often get repeats....always an adventure listening here!
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Yeah - I quite enjoyed the mega disc spinners back in the day. I had a Pioneer and still have a Sony mega disc changer (stick 300 CDs in and set it to random mode). Interestingly, they never sounded all that bad against single disc players for the same money. Perhaps because when you load 300 discs into the machine the machine weighs a ton and seriously reduces the machine's vibration. They were fun machines.
Basically I stick all the one hit wonders on the computer delete the tracks I don't listen to to save hard drive space and listen to dedicated CDs for albums I listen to all the way through or for sound quality.
a hard drive the size of a pocket book. I am able to lug it around pretty easily...
it still fits on a single USB stick these days. :)
...how many of your CDs are being utilized? Of your 1200 CDs how many do you estimate get played in a given year? Will you get around to playing all 1200 at least once in a 5 year period?
in case you get the yen to re-read them, or is a library (and the solace it can provide) unnecessary for you?
Maybe you're a kindle guy?
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
What changed for me was ripping all of them to my server and playing them via Touch players for the main and garage systems and via Foobar for the in house system.
I frequently choose random play and have "rediscovered" many old friends that I had forgotten about!
Every once in a while I'll close my eyes and randomly choose a CD from a shelf I seldom peruse.
Even hit the "random play" button on the CDP at times!
Same effect!
Have to admit it's a bit more difficult with LPs, but the effort is usually worth it.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Even hit the "random play" button on the CDP at times!
Same effect!
Sorry, but from my perspective it isn't even close. Random playback across 8000 tracks is different than that across eight from the same album and the same artist.
Have to admit it's a bit more difficult with LPs, but the effort is usually worth it.
Interesting. I've never seen a turntable than supports random track play. Neither of my tables does anything but manual play.
to bother asking on an audio board?
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...some times the point to a collector is the warm feeling having them all provides.
... Still in their wrapping.
Others I have burned to hard drive but not listened to yet.
Does it matter?
Smile
Sox
"Does it matter?"
Only to the psychiatric community.
Between records, CDs, and SACDS, I'm probably further behind re - buying vs listening - than 'ol Soxie. Plus, I've got 80 hours of catching up to do on the DVR. So there's that too :~!
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"Have you a water buffalo?"
... Some clown thinks I need to see a shrink because I have a couple of dozen CDs I've yet to open. We are talking pocket change here and supposedly I am suffering some compulsion or other nonsense?
I got some news for ol' Reg if he likes to see evil everywhere he looks. I live in a house bigger than I 'need' with more bedrooms and bathrooms than people who live here. More sound systems than people, more TVs than people, more digital players than people, more fridges than people, more landlines than people, more mobile phones than people, more cars than people and about 27 full dinner sets and over 1000 glasses.
I think I have about a dozen polo shirts still in the plastic as well. Gosh!
I must be certifiable!
Maybe Reg can pass the hat around and save my sorry butt.
Life's good, enjoy it, I do.
Smile
Sox
Just kidding. Are you sure my wife isn't doing your dinner set and glasses shopping? I'm pretty sure the only reason we have less than a dozen sets is she's run out of cabinet and closet space to put stuff (and we have LOTS of cabinets and closets).
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"Have you a water buffalo?"
You know, Roadie, as a conservative conspicuous consumption does not offend me. I say go for it! But historically, liberals have looked askance on such consumption. And because of that fact I'm surprised to see so many of them on here defending that "obscene" practice. ~:)
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syndrome applied to music purchases. On the plus side, I have begun to unsealed some of the backlog and pop em in the car changer (Neko Case, Drive By Truckers, Uncle Tupello and Muse are 4 I put in yesterday).
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"Have you a water buffalo?"
...share your shrink as you pursue dealing with your superiority complex.
Or is the condescension really inferiority?
"... dealing with your superiority complex."
Oh come on. There's nothing arrogant or superior insofar as noting the obvious. No one would argue that compulsive eating is not a mental disorder; likewise compulsive gambling, and drinking. Psychologists write of people suffering from compulsive sexual disorders. So what are we to make of compulsive collectors?
Just the other day, a chap on television was complaining about his own compulsive shoe purchases. He has hundreds of pairs of shoes (still in the boxes) stacked up in his closets and basement that he's never worn. How is that different from the fellow who has hundreds or thousands of CDs he's never opened, much less listened to? I'm sure these chronic CD collectors have gone to the trouble of spending good money purchasing storage units for their CDs that will never be used (by them). They are not unlike the guy who purchases expensive bookcases and then buys hundreds of books (he has no intention of reading) just to impress his friends.
When one reads that someone owns 20 dogs or 30 cats or hundreds of shoes or thousands of CDs one can be forgiven for suspecting that such people may very well be (at minimum) half a bubble off plumb. Perhaps "quirky" would be a much nicer term, but make no mistake about it, there is some mental compulsion that keeps forcing such people to make the same moronic purchase over and over.
At least in the case of vintage wine, car and stamp collecting one can make the case that their collection will appreciate in value. Not so with CDs and shoes.
...and what of the compulsion to continually point it out?That must be a conservative psychosis.
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... Why the snide comment?
If I don't conform to what you deem "normal" then I am very thankful I am not you.
Cheers.
Smile
Sox
Perhaps it is about collecting than listening because once the numbers get up there - the albums are going to sit on a shelf maybe for a decade or forever. I have buckets of CDs in my closet that I never listen to. The thought of counting them is rather pointless - if I don't listen to them then umm they don't count. Not in terms of any real value (music enjoyment value) anyway.
While like many others I prefer the sound of vinyl, you cannot beat the convenience and availability of cds. There is also a tremendous amount of music that just is not and never will be available on vinyl. I am constantly adding to my collection. Recently I have been buying 4 to 6 cds per week. At two to three dollars per at thrift stores they are a great bargain. I used to get vinyl at thrifts but the pipeline of interesting music has just dried up.
John
I used to know when I was using CD Trustee years ago. Now I can't be bothered counting, but I love going to the vinyl shop every couple of weeks or so and leaving with two, three or four used CDs for 4, 5, 6 or 7 bucks apiece.Beats one lp for 40.
About 1500.
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about 2,000 CDs, thanks to the streaming subscription services, I only bought one last year, and none so far this year.
and if my income hadn't plummeted during the past seven months I'd be
adding 2 CDs per week, mostly bought used.
LPs too (for what that's worth).
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
n/t
Another view;
just because "sales" are so-called down by the Record Companies, does not equate the demise of the CD.
3000 and counting!
Approx 800 ........
Hardly growing at all. The music I like from each disk gets converted to FLAC.
I do not "chase music" and foresee the same cycle vinyl has gone through--near disappearance then Renaissance.
but I haven't even had my CD player on in the last year..that is because I connected my stereo to my computer and use online music. They have a bigger library than me and are better at "shuffling" the music.
A Congressional inquiry once asked Nelson Bunker Hunt how much he was worth, and he said disdainfully "I don't know; a man who knows how much he's worth isn't worth very much."
I have a lot of cds.
I'm guessing it's about 3k, with maybe 100 more added each year. They're all ripped to FLAC files on two identical hard drives, and then boxed up (the ultimate backup).
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
...I still have about 200.
But I have my favorite 6300 songs recorded in Lossless on iTunes (which fit on my iPod Classic) from over 600 CDs.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
Probably 900 by now. The crazy prices on classical box sets have had my collection growing quite a bit the past few years.
But I'm finally slowing way down.
"Familiarity breeds contempt, and children."
-Mark Twain
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That is 1/10 of my 3,000 LPs which seem to grow at a snail's pace in spite of my intent to reduce the collection.
At my age I'm no longer compelled to expand. I may not have enough time to seriously listen to all the recordings I now own.
"You can't know what the "best" is unless you have heard everything, and keep in mind that given individual tastes, there really isn't any such thing." HP
... but I just shipped most of them to Murfie (cloud storage of ripped music + full rez streaming) over our Computer or Sonos - the sound quality is slightly better than TIDAL (oddly enough!).
I'm keeping the SACD's, DVD-A's, and a few CD's here.
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CDs I score monthly at garage/estate sales, thrifts, and new releases off Amazon, Burning Shed, Elusive Disc, Music Direct, etc., of my favorite artists or new artists I've been turned on to. I guess I'm averaging growth of 10-20 cds/mth.
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"Have you a water buffalo?"
Good question ... I would like to enter my CD collection in Discogs at some point. Believe that its about 1/3 the size of my vinyl collection. Am I buying new ones? ... rarely ... used, occasionally.
My hard media collecting is becoming more niche ... streaming is progressively encompassing more of my listening time.
If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.
--Zen Proverb
..since I don't have a CD player, except for the one in my car.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
Last year my g/f and moved in together and merged our music/gear. We add about 5-6 per month and are about 1/3 finished loading all of our discs on a Sony HAP-Z1ES. Finding an actual store with a good selection is a bigger problem. We buy on Amazon also but I enjoy just browsing.
10,924 as of right now. I still buy CDs and burn them as soon as they arrive...about 10-15 a month.
And yes that HD is backed up.
Very nice! LWR.
year project, as Zappa said..."the torture never stops"...
I hope you keep your backup powered off.
What do you do with the discs after you have copied them to the HD?
11K cds take up a LOT of room
used 3.720TB...so far. Apple Lossless format. I store the CDs off site...so to speak. One 6TB drive is in the Mac Pro, another is hooked up to the Mac Mini server. There are additional back ups in various places, including on the old 4TB drives that are in the closet....
> I store the CDs off site...so to speak.>
Yeah so do I - if they aren't favorites, I get the songs I want off of them and then sell them back.
and sell the original....I store mine all over the US...you know...in case we have the big one or my volcano goes nasty.
...of seashells. I keep it on all the beaches of the world. Perhaps you've seen it."- Steven Wright.
I collect it and.......
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