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I buy a fair amount of CD's from Amazon, both used and new and love the convenience/pricing. I am however ticked off at their stance on using sub contracted labor to avoid being accused of paying slave wages and not paying people to stand in line for their forced security searches.
Is there any other retailer that sells both used and new CD's that you like?
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In my opinion Amazon offers Prime membership and free shipping to seduce and distract potential buyers from checking how much extra an Amazon purchase typically costs over an Amazon alternative vendor price with shipping. By buying most of many hundreds of classical CDs from Amazon's alternative vendors four years ago, I saved about 33% or more than $3,000 over Amazon prices in total.
In my experience the best Amazon alternative vendors for competitive pricing, fast delivery, good packaging of new classical CDs came in this order:
- Blowitoutahere (Redtagmarket on eBay)
- ClassicalMusicSuperstore
- Newbury Comics
- Beaches Enterntainment
- HTS Scotland
- Importcds
- Moviemars CD
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always get great used ones cheap!
www.barnesandnoble.com
Individuals.
AMAZON is a business and you may not have noticed they are not profitable.
I find it a strange business model but as long as the prices are good and the service is good I will not hesitate to use them.
You might find their competition doing things every bit as "bad".
One should just make their own new and used CDs and not have to worry about the brutal marketplace.
Goodwill Stores.
What a shame it is to provide nationwide and centralized exposure to selling their donated goods!
Another vote for Thrift stores.
that so many people are being forced to work against their will at Amazon as slaves. I had no idea.
...Gosh! What a shock!
Still you want to whinge about a great American company?
Don't whinge, never buy anything from Amazon if you are supposedly "ticked off" with Amazon.
Buying CDs is hardly a difficult thing and there are many choices. Make sure you diligently investigate the work practices, ethics, morals and legality of every vendor.
I buy the majority of my CDs from brick and mortar stores. I can even listen to them before I buy if I wish. I rarely do as I just buy the CDs. However my wife nearly always listens before she buys.
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If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.
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The military is developing robots that will replace human soldiers within 20 years, including infantry and logistical support, I believe that Google subsidiary Boston Dynamics has a development contract for some of the prototypes. Google is developing driverless trucks, as well. Hence, the future of human labor might be called dystopian were it not so real.
In the meanwhile, however, I avoid Amazon due to its labor practices.
Our numbers would need to decline much faster than the robot population grows - an unlikely scenario unless our robots kill billions of us quickly, cleanly, and efficiently.
As time goes by, it become more clear that workers exist only at the sufferance of their masters.
I remember a Twilight Zone episode with that very same prediction.
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not to mention efforts in many other first-world nations. It is the new space race.
Will those be owned by the Chinese?
Robots work 24/7 without need for rest or recreation and have no concept of mortality. A large portion of the mass-consumption economy will wither away, i.e., demand for the kind of things that wage workers buy.
Think about it - the robot economy will primarily serve the 1% and use most of the world's resources to do so. Everyone else will live a phantom existence at the fringes of opulence. Or be culled in suspicious wars to reduce numbers. It's not pretty. In fact, it's likely a return to feudalism and robber-barons. Except this time with lethal killer robots enforcing the division.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
Good selection and pricing but shipping cost may sometimes be higher than Amazon for smaller orders.
CD Universe
I'm unaware of any issues regarding Amazon and how they treat their fulltime or part time employees. But, if we're going to avoid retail outlets either with brick & mortar or online stores, you don't have to look very hard to find examples of much worse.Ever been to WalMart?
I don't shop there. Never have, never will. Cheap Chinese slave labor or some other third world hellhole that beats and exploits their workers and not even pay a starvation wage.
I'm sure any one of those people would love to have that job at Amazon. I think you need to put things in perspective.....
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I don't shop at Walmart and never will as long as they continue their part time, no benefit, low wage, philosophy.
That doesn't excuse others from bad behavior though. Imagine if you were forced to wait in line for 15-30 minutes every day before you could leave work and didn't get paid for it.
They do this through a sub-contractor to avoid the fallout and bad publicity but they are one of the main companies defending the practice.
But I'm not quite sure what that might be. Can you post a link to an article to support your argument?
Oh, and on the plus side, as this is the Audio Asylum, I'm listening to Elton John's Honky Chateau - an all time favorite. What are you listening to?
Another vote for CD Universe.
Did you realize that over 90% of sales at Walmart are Chinese goods? Did you realize that Walmart alone is responsible for almost 10% of Chinese exports to America?
Remember those signs that said "we sell only American products" were hung in Walmart stores? It may be cheaper but we are losing jobs in America because of them, but Walmart does not treat it's employees well anyway..
Amazon, by far, is the best. Ebay used to be the best- not any longer.
CD Baby is pretty good as well.
I have gone to the artist's website - and often been able to buy direct from them -
I just did this with "the New Basement Tapes" - funny, they offered to pay via Amazon, and PayPal or CC...
I am not a Huge fan of Amazon - but it does have its uses....
Happy shopping
. . . these retailers sometimes have their own sites, from which you can order directly, thus cutting out the middleman (Amazon itself). I think ImportCDs, which mbnx01 mentions below, is one of these retailers. I haven't found there to be a price advantage in doing this however - the retailers probably have an agreement not to undersell their merchandise which appears on Amazon.
Amazon Seller ImportCD's below:
I'm sure they only beat their employees when they are REALLY, REALLY bad!
I use Amazon but I don't need it.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
ArkivMusic.com is US-based and about the best source for Classical. This includes quite few discontinued titles, so-called "ArkivCDs", that Arkiv burns on demand.
Another popular site for Classical is www.MDT.co.uk based in the United Kingdom.
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