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I just HAVE to rant about this. Way back in 1982, when the Apple II was the only game in town, the darn 6502 computer with 0 MB couldn't keep up with me.Here we are in 2014, with giga stuff, and it hasn't changed. I'm STILL waiting for the computer, even at 50 mbps.
F-ing advertising.
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Edits: 11/15/14Follow Ups:
"Way back in 1982, when the Apple II was the only game in town, "
Apple has never been the "only game in town." I had a DEC Rainbow 100 in 1982 running CPM.
I hear ya. Note that in another post, I corrected myself and wrote 1981. (Yes, I know there was also the Radio Shack TRS-80, but it never gained the popular appeal of the Apple II.) That's the year I was introduced to the Apple by a friend who, at work, used a DEC PDP-11, but at home, used an Apple. By '82, the IBM PC was available.In '81, there was also the Xerox 820, running CP/M, with its 8" floppy disks, but, for some odd reason ;) , it never broke into the mainstream of Joe & Mary's household. "Asteroids", "Space Invaders", and "VisiCalc" brought the PC to the masses and corporate cubicles on the Apple II.
So, the personal computer market didn't really take off until the Apple II, hence my comment "the only game in town" (discounting, of course, the "game" computers).
In any case, the point of my original post was to highlight the fact that, 30+ years later, even with screaming fast processors which need their own fans, gigabytes of memory and instant access solid state drives, many of today's apps are just as slow as apps of 30 years ago. Why can't we ever seem to "get ahead of the game"? Examples: When I'm recording audio from the stereo with SoundForge, my Internet performance slows WAY down, and FireFox takes several seconds to load even when it's the only app being started. Yes, I get it: Programmers take advantage of every bit of available memory, processes, etc., but it's still frustrating.
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Edits: 11/16/14
Stop your whining man, unless you're willing to use my 1200 baud modem for a week! ;-)
most of those programs claiming to be upgrades to flash players and adware removers and blockers are adware and bad-ware themselves. I know from experience. they are hard to get rid of too. i even killed a laptops video drivers trying to remove some.
And can you imagine what it will be like when those advertisers have legal entitlement to "fast lanes" and the rest of us have to take what's left?
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Perhaps it's just a mindset thing.Surely, you didn't think all this time since 1982 the technological advancements were for YOU to take advantage of.
Did you?
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If you use IE 9 or above set up tracking protection.
I did what FenderLover suggested and on some sites
more than 100 services are blocked.
And you should probably also be using Ghostery - it blocks the insane number of trackers that are being used nowadaze. Check it out, great program and totally free!!
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Thanks for the heads up on Ghostery! I'd never heard of this. I loaded it this morning and it works fantastic.
The Random Agent Spoofer. I use Firefox and this is one of the add-ons available. It helps to keep website data collectors from building a profile of your internet usage.
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...AdBlock and Ghostery. They work very well but once in a while you have to disable Ghostery on a particular web page to gain full functionality.
There's all manner of ad blocking software available, and most of it is
free.
Ever tried them? I did, and guess what? It downloaded several programs that changed everything including my homepage. Not sure my computer will ever be the same again....
"Downloading a high-definition movie takes about seven seconds in Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Zurich, Bucharest and Paris, and people pay as little as $30 a month for that connection. In Los Angeles, New York and Washington, downloading the same movie takes 1.4 minutes for people with the fastest Internet available, and they pay $300 a month for the privilege, according to The Cost of Connectivity, a report published Thursday by the New America Foundation’s Open Technology Institute."
The (way overpriced) Apple II?
What about the Atari's?
The Commodore's?
TI/99?
Apple II was just another computer back then, most of them based upon the MOS Technologies 6502, which was a Commodore processor.
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The Apple II easily outclassed all those other pretenders mentioned. It had > 75% marketshare, and the best software (and tons of it). The processor was the least of the issues, the best part of the Apple II was the architecture. Woz ruled. ;-)
Ok, in the US, the Apple II, (with the upcoming cult of Apple and Steve Jobs) was the computer that was taken most seriously by the business crowd, (in the US, pre the IBM PC/Microsoft taking over the market), but the Commodore 64 was/is the best selling computer model of all time.BTW, the previous Commodore business computer line, (unfortunately named Pet") were arguably superior to the Apple II line, at least hardware-wise. They also sold a lot of Pets to schools back then, both in the US and Canada.
How about dual 5 1/4 floppy disk drives with up to 1 meg per disk? 5 and 7.5 hard disks? built-in monitors with up to 80 columns? The top of the line Superpet business computer was the first computer to have a dual processor system.
SuperPET 9000 series
CPU: MOS 6502 and Motorola 6809, 1 MHz
RAM: 96 kB
ROM: 48 kB, including BASIC 4.0 and other programming languages (Waterloo MicroAPL, MicroFORTRAN, MicroBASIC, MicroPascal, MicroCOBOL)
Video: MOS 6545, 12" monochrome monitor, 80×25 character display
Sound: single piezo "beeper" (optional external speaker driven by MOS 6522 CB2 pin)
Ports: MOS 6520 PIA, MOS 6522 VIA, MOS 6551 ACIA, 1 RS-232, 2 Datassette ports (1 on the back), 1 IEEE-488 port for connecting peripherals.
Notes: basically an 8000 with ROMs for programming languages, it also had three character sets, and an RS-232 for use as a terminalperipherals
Commodore Business Machines made a variety of disk drives available for the PET, using the IEEE 488 interface, including:
Commodore 2031 single disk drive (170 kB single-sided 5.25" format)
Commodore 4040 dual disk drive (same disk format as the 2031) could be used as a stand-alone disk copier.
Commodore 8024 132 column printer, friction or traction gear, Mannesmann Tally mechanics
Commodore 8050 dual disk drive (500 kB single-sided 5.25" format)
Commodore 8075 plotter, Watanabe mechanics
Commodore 8250 "quad density" dual disk drive (1 MB capacity, same as the 8050, but double-sided)
Commodore 8280 dual disk drive (8") (500 kB MFM format)
Commodore 9060 hard drive (5 MB)
Commodore 9090 hard drive (7.5 MB)
Commodore SFD-1001 "quad density" single disk drive (basically a single-drive 8250 model)Basically, Commodore computers were much more popular than any other computer back in the eighties in Europe and Canada.
For more information about the early Commodore Pets, see this. BTW, Rockwell used Pets in those years, I'm sure it didn't hurt that the Pet line used the Hewlett Packard GPIB bus for connecting things like drives
and printers.
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Edits: 11/21/14
Yet, when I worked part-time at a Computerland store in 81-82 in between recordings and sound system installations, the Apple II was flying out the door by the dozens. Commodore PET? - I don't remember ever selling one or anyone asking about it.
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I'm confused.Did the store you work at sell Commodore computers?
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"I'm confused.Did the store you work at sell Commodore computers?"I don't remember for sure - we were busy testing and selling Apples, and then, later, Apples and IBMs. It was Computerland, and we sold a variety of things, but not TRS-80s, lol. As I said previously, I don't remember anyone asking about the PET.
What was your store's balance of sales?
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I never worked retail. However, I am a Commodore fanatic, as many more are still.
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That's all well and good. Carry on!
Personally, my friend who first introduced me to the Apple was a programmer on the DEC PDP. As a sound and acoustics guy, I could NOT WAIT to learn how to write some BASIC programs for sound and acoustics modeling! The Apple gave me the means to begin, and the IBM PC provided even more capabilities.
:)
I'm a hobbyist also. Frankly this is the best time to be one. For $1000 or so US you can build a fairly top of the line computer with name brand parts. SSD, Haswell processor, top of the line Intel board maxed out on RAM.What a difference a decade makes, thanks to China Inc.
It's all good.
Edits: 11/22/14
Great replies so far!
I'll just add that I meant 1981. By 1982, the IBM PC was introduced, with it's blazing fast 8088 processor and 48KB of memory.
JSM wrote that I should build my own PC. Ha! I have 5 PCs, and I built 3 of them (the other two are a laptop - I don't build laptops, and a 1995 vintage Micron with a screaming fast Pentium 133 and a whopping 256K of memory - which I use for word processing and spreadsheets). These three are all duo-core Intel processors with at least 2 GB of memory. The one I'm at right now is my music PC, connected to my stereo. I run Firefox as my browser on all of them.
The problem I see is advertising. Every now and then, I'll get a message to install a new version of Flash Player. F, I don't use it. The only F-ing thing that uses it is advertising! Ok, so we have to live with advertising, but does it have to be full-motion video?!!!
:)
OK now that I have your attention get a proxy server! I recommend Proxomitron. Run Hijack This once a week or so. Both are free. Quit whining and take action. I love seeing the word "ad" in red, bracketed, where the ad is supposed to go. I do what I can top take control back. Never use Internet Explorer either.
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You can't avoid the majority of advertising on the web, but you can have a fast PC. Build it yourself from the shell up with only what you need. A good place to do this is MicroCenter. I have less than 6 software programs installed other than the operating system, Chrome, and NOD32 (the best and least offensive anti-virus you can get). My motherboard and RAM is modest. The machine is quite fast because it is clean.
When you buy a pre-built machine it comes with tons of junk and trial software installed. Plus you don't get the install disks for any of it. I will never do that again.
+1 NOD32............... Best I have used
Interesting...
what/which change(s) would you like to see?
I can't keep up with Linux Mint on a quad core intel i5 with 24gb ram and 2gb video card with 4k monitor (4x the resolution of HD). Cost me maybe $1,500 and it is many years old.
Anytime I use Mac or Windows OS I get nothing but problems.
money. To be exact it is this "intensive" advertising that slows everything down. Some people even go out to buy a new computer. That works...for about 1 year. it is an endless cycle...
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