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In Reply to: RE: New York Times on Harry Pearson posted by tesla on November 13, 2014 at 09:43:53
...in 1976, what was better than stacked Advents?
Not very much.
Maybe KLH 9s, Infinity Servostatic 1As (when they were working) and Quad 57s.
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There were *plenty* of speakers better than stacked Advents - DQ-10s, JBL L-100 and L-65, most of the larger ADS speakers, all sorts of KEFs, Spendors, IMFs, I could go on and on.
The Advents were good, but not great. They were one hell of a good setup for your typical college dorm - no doubt about that!
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There were *plenty* of speakers better than stacked Advents - DQ-10s, JBL L-100 and L-65, most of the larger ADS speakers, all sorts of KEFs, Spendors, IMFs, I could go on and on.
I agree with this, except for the JBL's. Horrible speakers. Personally I preferred the Dyna A25's to the Advents. Much cleaner on the top end.
Yeah, I got a pair of Kef 104 speakers then, used them for 18-19 years. They were very sensitive to placement due to a depression in the off axis response from about 1-3 kHz, though they had a very even response in the so-called listening window.
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you'll find two other answers in the reference system:Dayton-Wright electrostats and Magneplanars ("...which is the most precisely focused speaker we have ever heard..")
edit: Both of which were highly instrumental in guiding my path. :)
Edits: 11/13/14
...issue 1 was out of print by the time I requested back issues.I believe it was around issue #6 that listed stacked Advents on the reference list.
Edits: 11/13/14
They were listed from the very start. Since I have a nearly complete collection up until about two years ago, it is easy for me find the following information. I had forgotten that HP wrote a nice note on my copy of the first issue when he visited my house in 2003. BTW, he heard the Double New Advents I was using at the time in the garage system. He commented that he would really like to hear a pair with the drivers mounted flush in a "modern" cabinet.
Issue 1 Reference:
Turntable: Sony TTS-3000/3000a
Arm:SME 3009 II Improved
Cartridge: ADC-XLM
Preamplifier: Citation 11a; Audio Research SP-3
Amplifier: Phase Linear 700
Speakers: Double Advents, Dayton Wright electrostatic; Audio Research Magneplanar; Double KLH Model Nines
Issue 2 Reference:
Same as above with some additions...
Turntable: Panasonic SP-10
Arm: Decca International; Rabco SL-8E
Cartridge:Decca-London Five
Amplifier: Crown DC-300a; Citation 12
Speaker: IMF Monitor III
With Issue 4, the Editor's Choice concept was introduced with components ranked in categories. The Double Advents fell to the "Recommended" category with Maggies, D-Ws and DQ-10s holding the top spot.
back in those years. ;-)
Isn't it about the journey and what you've learned?
I first became aware of the magazine by meeting JWC at the audio shop where I hung out / worked around 1976. Fellow inmate Rick McGinnis was another regular at Fat Julian's Audio.
1973 was the year TAS began. Hmmm. I was 16. Here's the system:
Lenco L-75A w/Shure M91ED
Dynaco PAS3X preamp
Dynaco ST120 amp
Dynaco FM-5 tuner (I build that from a kit as I did with a later PAT-5)
Advent loudspeaker w/Microstatic tweeters
Smaller Advent loudspeaker
Dynaco QD-1 Quadaptor
I was sporting a "true" quadrophonic system:
1) Sansui 9090 db receiver - *loved* that walnut cabinet!
2) Dual 1249 table with Shure V-15 Type III and Pickering CD-4 carts
3) 4 JBL L-100s (later replaced by JBL L-65 Jubals - *great* speakers!)
4) Teac 4 channel open reel deck, 3.75 and 7.5 IPS with auto-reverse
5) Technics RS-676US cassette recorder
IMHO, this very same system would still sound pretty good today. I later replaced the Sansui with a Marantz 4270 4-channel receiver. Lord knows, that was one sweet piece!
No matter, it was entirely possible to assemble a very good sounding system back in the mid-70s and early 80s if you knew your stuff and had the money...
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Garrard Lab 80 with a wooden tone arm yet! Who knows what cartridge?
Akia M8 reel to reel
Scott integrated amp of some kind.
Jensen TF-3a speakers
All completely destroyed in shipping while returning from overseas. :-(
Down hill after that, thanks to the scummy sales people at Pacific Stereo (many of which own big name audio companies today).
Crappy sand amps and crap speakers in the early to mid 70's. Name brands to be sure but just awful crap with recognizable brand names on it. I suspect this is what HP was reacting so strongly against. Not that it mattered considering the 'lifestyle choices' I was making at the time! =:-0
Better and more expensive sand amps and speakers in the mid to late 70's. Marantz 2325 receiver, JBL 166 Horizon speakers, B&O turntable, sounded good to me. Still enjoying those 'lifestyle' choices, just better choices! ;-)
Not into audio at all in the 80's or early 90's. Mostly traveling and trying to make money.
Still, I bet those stacked Advents sounded pretty good!
Still, I bet those stacked Advents sounded pretty good!
They did crank in my small bedroom. My brother would comment as to how the medicine cabinet in the bathroom between our rooms would buzz when I played some bass heavy content from EL&P, Rick Wakeman and yes Richard Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra . The Advent brochure specifically mentioned how well the Mehta performance did with first octave bass. :)
As the resident audio geek in high school, I was asked to provide the sound system for playing music at the 1974 Miss RHS pageant. By 1974, I had upgraded parts of the system. Now used a Technics SL-110a table/SME 3009 arm/Ortofon M15, H-K Citation 11/Crown D-150 driving double Advents with the Microstatic tweeters. Since we needed more horizontal dispersion, the speakers were deployed side-by-side.
With the right amps.
Perhaps Quad II's?
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would have been the late 70's. They belonged to a mutual friend who had a few bucks (lots of bucks at the time) who did a 'long term' loan to a big customer of his(not audio), and whose home I heard them in. Our mutual friend had NOT loaned the amps he normally used with them so they were hooked up to the cheap-assed and worst sounding sand-amps of the day and sounded pretty bad.
Had a chance to buy them from the owner once he finally asked for them back (he had less bucks at the time) but passed because of how had they sounded in the guys crappy system.
But who knew?
Not me!
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