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The spare bedrooms of this house contain over 2,000 organ pipes; the console is in the living room.
Open up all the doors, and fill the house with music.
Myself, I'd prefer a tracker of 14 ranks total or even fewer, and do without the "harp" and "chimes" stops.
The sad part is that removing and crating and redesigning and reinstalling elsewhere will run IMHO at least $100,000... . Which is probably why it comes free with the house.
FWIW & YMMV.
jm
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Sounds like a "great" deal. Almost too good to be true. Which makes me wonder:1. Does the listing contract include the organ, or is the organ "contents available separately"?
2. If the organ is worth a million dollars, why don't the organ guys who installed it buy the house and sell off the organ? Or, since it's all bequeathed to them and "it's worth a million dollars", disassemble it and keep it.
3. If the church couldn't afford to maintain it, how did Mr. Tufts manage to maintain it, and what is the average annual maintenance cost?
4. The questions could go on and on. It seems to me that there's more to this story than we've been told.
5. I suspect the house won't be sold until some additional agreement is made with regard to the disposal of the organ. I mean, seriously, who, other than the clearly a bit wacky Mr. Tufts, wants a full-blown pipe organ in their house? Maybe a church organist who's currently living in an apartment?
6. If the house, land AND organ are going for $129,900, then the organ is worth something less than that, not a million.
:)
Edits: 11/03/14
The guilty undertaker sighs
The lonesome organ grinder cries...
:)
Jim J.
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Interesting idea! I wonder if there any Mormons in the neighborhood.
...And you estimate it might cost 100K to move the organ?
So one could "theoretically" spend 230K to secure a 1000K organ.
Sounds great but I have my doubts about the market value of the said organ.
Nonetheless an interesting, if somewhat unusual, story.
Thanks for posting.
Smile
Sox
They never said that the owner PAID $1 million to get it built; they said that it was "valued today" at $1 million, which is probably an inflated replacement cost. They never said how old it was; to me it looked at least 30 years old if not 40.
That organ, disassembled and with all its pipes labeled with UPC scannable labels and a computerized inventory, and everything properly crated, is probably a 2-week job once proper crates are built, and my educated guess is that the crates would fill most of a 40-foot trailer truck.
That's more than 2,300 delicate high-precision items to be logged in and cared for.
And at the end of that process, I think that thing would need a tonal redesign and a layout redesign. To me, based on very limited listening, it's an organ that sounds generically Romantic--it "sounds like an organ."
I think that most Conservatories want organ students to learn on smaller organs with limited tone-color options (2 keyboards 6 ranks each plus 2 pedal ranks is a nice disposition) so they have to be disciplined in their counterpoint and not just generate a big loud Romantic wash of sound.
Sad to say in the US, there are apparently now two "recipes" for Churches:
RECIPE FOR FAILURE: Liberal on social issues, but with Traditional choir and organ music (Episcopalian, Methodist, Presbyterian, and some Congregationalist).
RECIPE FOR SUCCESS: Conservative on social issues, but with Rock and Roll Praise Music (Evangelical or Pentacostal).
ATB,
jm
... I chose my words carefully and qualified my comment;
So the organ is supposedly valued @ 1000K
I have no idea what the narrator actually meant or how he arrived at his value for the organ. However I do know what the narrator actually said;
The organ is valued today at around one million dollars
It is anyone's guess to what precisely the narrator meant. :)
I suspect the project of actually moving and relocating this organ might be in and of itself something too daunting for a church or other organization. Unless a wealthy benefactor were to bankroll the project.
I don't know the value of similar real estate in Grand Rapids but the price, at least to this Aussie, seems incredibly cheap.
It will be interesting to follow the sale and see if anything eventuates with the organ or will it be simply trashed.
Here is a pic of my favourite organ, a full length 64' organ stop and all!
Smile
Sox
It looks like bungalows on small lots... .
When there are few jobs and taxes go up because of a contracting economy, house prices go down.
There are houses going unsold in Detroit, Michigan for $3,000.
Grand Rapids is not as bad, but, it is definitely (at least IMHO) a post-industrial rust belt town, and lest anyone take offense, I would say the same for Providence, Pawtucket, and Central Falls, RI.
jm
... Yes, you are quite correct. Residential real estate prices in that area are mostly under 100K.
I did not research if prices have always been so cheap but I looked enough to see it is a cheap area to buy a home.
I wish them luck in a sale and/or saving the organ.
Cheers.
Smile
Sox
RECIPE FOR SUCCESS #3: Latin Mass with chanting monks... Bad Ass.
jm
So lovely! Thank you, John!
Brian
So much music, so little time!
So one could "theoretically" spend 230K to secure a 1000K organ.
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Precisely, which you then donate to a church or university. LOL
...Room to put it in.
I wouldn't donate spit to a church and universities need money, not toys.
If I were in such a position to donate a large organ, it would be to a town hall or community centre type organization where all would be welcome to admire it.
Smile
Sox
Organ donations are very important.
In these times what's another zero at the end of a number mean anyway?
I am not aware of any churches that have any desire for donations of spit. But one must admire such grandiose public spiritedness, I guess.
...That aside, I think my colloquial use of the word, spit, is quite clear in its meaning, I don't donate to churches.
I am actively involved in many community organizations however none of them are churches. I see no need for me to donate to large corporate businesses, which the majority of churches actually happen to be part of.
My wife and I have taken in a number of foster children over the years. Maybe not quite grandiose but somewhat helpful and appreciated but those folks involved.
The two beneficiaries of the home with the organ in it are quite free to donate the home and organ to a church if they become overwhelmed in public 'spiritedness'. Just don't hold your breath.
Cheers.
Smile
Sox
That thing would be headed for the organ grinder if I bought the house.
I've always wondered about the resale value of the house with the giant horn sub-woofer built into the basement (link below). Most people would be turned off by it, but I bet there'd be a few Asylum Inmates (including me) who might consider the sub a bonus.
Very sweet project! Thanks for sharing.
Wrong brick. You need Monster Brick. Will I be sued?
The subwwoofer, that is. What's not to like about it? You can't even see the subwoofer. Except for the floor grates, it's totally hidden away. I own a pair of this guy's speakers (Royal Device Laura). I only wish I could afford the matching sub!And, the bass! The bass must be totally awesome...
Edits: 10/30/14 10/31/14
There would be nothing worse than a pipe organ that wasn't wind-blown.... [-;
Who's ready to move?
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