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• RE: Yeah, good for them .... - gadio4533 12:14:27 10/28/14 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Yeah, good for them .... posted by three_sox on October 26, 2014 at 17:05:32

  If you want to take it to the next level get the Cullen circuits modified zp90. I have one feeding my dac in my main system and is basically 'cd quality'. I wouldn't be without it, to me it was worth the upgrade price.
  

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• I can't imagine that, but... - E-Stat 15:02:14 10/27/14 (6)
  In Reply to: RE: Yeah, good for them .... posted by three_sox on October 26, 2014 at 17:05:32

  I suspect someone on this forum will come along and want to poor poo poo all over Sonos.
  
  It appears to be a versatile and easy system to use. Especially when you use their entire wireless speaker based systems. Their sales success here and abroad speaks volumes.
  
  Those of us who use the full capability of the Logitech Touch players, however, were hoping for an equivalent alternative since that unit was discontinued.
  

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  • Sonos has plenty of knockers on AA ... - three_sox 16:23:17 10/27/14 (5)
    In Reply to: RE: I can't imagine that, but... posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2014 at 15:02:14

    ...But the joint is full of negativity so it's nothing new.
    
    I've never used the Logitech offerings and although most folks I knew were happy with it, especially the price, I knew a couple who got poor results with Logitech but great results from Sonos. So I went the Sonos path many years ago.
    
    I have Sonos hooked into 5 systems throughout the house and my family and I are very pleased with it. I use the ZP90 (connect) in four systems and the ZP120 (connect amp) in one system. We all have iPads and control the music independently as we see fit.
    
    I find if a good DAC is used then the results are quite good.
    
    
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    • Interesting - E-Stat 16:48:06 10/27/14 (4)
      In Reply to: RE: Sonos has plenty of knockers on AA ... posted by three_sox on October 27, 2014 at 16:23:17

      knew a couple who got poor results with Logitech but great results from Sonos. So I went the Sonos path many years ago
      
      Touch offers on screen control
      Touch offers 24/96 and 24/192 playback capability
      Touch offers USB output to external DAC (via free plugin)
      Touch offers ability to replace cheap switching power supply with linear
      
      Sonos is a nice product. And if you use their wireless speaker offerings, they have unique capabilities.
      

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      • Hostility towards hi-res - Dave_K 09:44:50 10/28/14 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: Interesting posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2014 at 16:48:06

        Customers have been requesting hi-res file support since the beginning, and Sonos still have no plans to add it in the future.
        
        What's worse, there is open hostility towards the idea on their forums. A few of their moderators are Hydrogen Audio types, which doesn't help. If you ask for hi-res support or they think you might be an audiophile, expect to be smacked down with insults, xiph.org links, and DBT discussion.
        
        Fortunately, Sonos isn't the only game in town anymore for multi-zone / whole house audio streaming.
        
        

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      • RE: Interesting - three_sox 17:10:55 10/27/14 (2)
        In Reply to: RE: Interesting posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2014 at 16:48:06

        Yeah I realize the Logitech offers higher resolution than Sonos but I had concerns if it would drop out over the long distances which is what two chaps I know had a problem with and hence I went with Sonos.
        
        I have not compared Logitech & Sonos side by side so I can't comment.
        
        Specs are specs but ultimately if it sounds good to the individual then it is good for the individual.
        
        From the ZP90 I connect to the DAC using Toslink.
        
        I am not anal about audio specs. If I had bought Logitech, at a fraction of the price, but encountered drop-outs and stops like a couple of guys I knew did then it would have been a waste. I will never know now :)
        
        I'm happy with Sonos as I am happy with my audio systems wich is really all that matters.
        
        YMMV.
        
        
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        • RE: Interesting - E-Stat 17:24:13 10/27/14 (1)
          In Reply to: RE: Interesting posted by three_sox on October 27, 2014 at 17:10:55

          Specs are specs but ultimately if it sounds good to the individual then it is good for the individual.
          
          I'm not comparing *specs*. I'm comparing capabilities. Now that I have accumulated a decent sized hi-rez library, I certainly want to continue to be able to play them. :)
          
          ...but encountered drop-outs and stops like a couple of guys
          
          If your network is incapable of providing sufficient throughput, the choice of device is moot. As for me, I use wired Ethernet for upstairs and use a wired "N" bridge for the garage. I experience zero drop outs with the higher bandwidth requirements of 24/96 vs. 16/44.
          

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          • I don't ... - three_sox 17:40:52 10/27/14 (0)
            In Reply to: RE: Interesting posted by E-Stat on October 27, 2014 at 17:24:13

            ... Own that many hi-rez titles, but I understand what your position is now.
            
            I own quite a lot of redbook titles and was my main focus.
            
            

            If your network is incapable of providing sufficient throughput, the choice of device is moot

            
            
            Other than updates or radio, which I don't use but the kids do, my network has little to do with Sonos. Sonos itself links between my music library and my systems.
            
            Cheers.
            
            
            
            
            
            
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• RE: Yeah, good for them .... - gme109 06:47:08 10/27/14 (1)
  In Reply to: RE: Yeah, good for them .... posted by three_sox on October 26, 2014 at 17:05:32

  No Sonos is not super hi end, but they make some of the best sounding wireless speakers out there.
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  • RE: Yeah, good for them .... - three_sox 07:14:36 10/27/14 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: Yeah, good for them .... posted by gme109 on October 27, 2014 at 06:47:08

    I've never heard their speakers.
    
    I like Sonos because it has a very good range, a very good interface, is simple to use and works seamlessly over several systems spread over a fair distance with multiple users.
    
    If hooked into a good DAC it sounds good to me.
    
    
    
    
    
    
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