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In Reply to: RE: Now THAT'S... posted by musetap on October 11, 2014 at 11:28:05
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ive read most of this thread and you guys have missed maybe the most important thing.Im 27 years old and seriously, 99% of people my age doesnt really listen to music anymore. Not like I do and not like you guys do. They dont even know what it is to dig a artist and listen to every note he plays, or follow all the musical lines of a song, ect.
People my age and younger have been expose to crap pop music, and have been sort of raised like that: to not listen to the music. I dont blame them because the musica we are now expose to is pure SHIT.JAzz is indeed seen as weird, heck even rock is seen as a thing of the past. Electronica and rap and pop is the only thing we know.
Nobody cares enough about that music to want to invest in a systemThat said, anybody my age who listend to the many iteration of my system all said the same thing: HOLY fuck, didnt thought it could sound that good.
Then, since nobody is ever expose to a good sound system anymore, its like the circle has ended. no body is faced with a good system enough to even know that amazing sound is possible. They just dont know what they are missing; its not advertised anywhere anymore. You do not see big speakers nowhere, not even in videoclip, on tv, or movies.
Its like a sound system is not part of our culture anymore.
oh well, were the lucky ones!
Edits: 10/11/14
"It's like a sound system is not part of our culture anymore" that to me is the bottom line. If young people are not interested in good sound they never will be. Like I have been saying since I got on this site we are the last of the dinosaurs. And you know what happened to them.
indeed.They are not interested in music anymore, so a sound system is the last of their needs.
Its really sad and worrysome. ITs like, they cannot even concentrate enough to listen to real music anymore.
Electronica has really changed the way music is seen and what music is suppose to be and sound like.
Dont get me wrong, theres still amazing music being made today, but its sparse and theres a lot more crap then before.The crap is much more crappier then 30 years ago, and a lot more people listen to that crap so that tells you how bad the situation is.
And to think that Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix or Zappa was considered popular at one time and mainstream is amazing to me. Music is just not the same. Originality and research of something different musically is mostly gone. Electronica made possible for anybody to make cool sounds and music. Melodies are more and more cheesy or simply elementory. The drum work is now not a part of the music but just something to respect the rhythm (tony william would be considered too much for example), ect.
Ive been a electronica fan all my life and if one dig deep enough, theres truly amazing musician in the elctronica realm. but they are rare, really rare. Most are not musicians, and what thye do could barely be considered music. Sure, its music, but really really bad imo compared to even the 70s and 80s and 90s. Worst is that the good music from the past is seen like too old and bad Truth is, most cannot understand Miles, Jimi or Zappa genius; the intelligence behind their music is really not understood.Again, its not that people doesnt have taste anymore, its simply that their taste cannot evolve due to the lack of exposition to real music. Just like when I was a kid and couldnt appreciate wine, coffee or mushrooms.
Anyways!
So with all that said, nobody cares about music anymore, so a sound system is the last of one needs.
when I say no one, its a broad generation of course.
Edits: 10/11/14 10/11/14
I grew up on frank Zappa and I don't remember him as mainstream. Maybe some other members here can comment on this. It would be interesting to see what they say.
Did you read what he said sox? "Kids my ago don't even listen to music" there goes your theory on young people being audiophiles.
... Opinions are like bottoms, everyone has one.
I really couldn't care less what a pessimistic old douche like you says.
There has never been so much affordable high-end audio equipment so readily available from all over the world than there is now.
I have late teen and twenty something kids, they are all into audio and so are their friends.... maybe not as fanatical as us goomers on this site but the passion is there. Your continued broad-brush pessimism is banal and boorish.
Is what my kids and their friends do representative of the demographic? No, but it never was. I repeat, it never was. High-end audio was always a niche and the majority of people have never been into it. Maybe the percentage of people who are interested high-end audio is lower now but it is far from dead, no matter how many times you espouse its demise.
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Sox, I don't care if they are giving it away for free. Most young people don't care about it. Why do you have such a hard time with the truth. Some of you baby boomers are in such denial. I'm not telling you to abandon your love for audio. All I'm saying is the kids growing up in 2014 don't give a rat's ass about it.
.... They never did!
Read my post again then take a valium.
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Edits: 10/12/14
the thing about headphones is really true. More and more, people listen to music with headphones.
I know that the headphones market as exploded, as well as headphones amps.
I personally have grown up listening critically to musiuc on eahdphones, never on speakers until I found out how good a good system can be. But I still listen every night to my ehadphoens system because well, you hear better with headphoens unless you can crank the stereo.
Ive talked to Thorsten loesch about that, and yes audiophiles are using headphones more and more, the young audiophiles...
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