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In Reply to: RE: Real vs Reproduced posted by beppe61 on August 24, 2014 at 04:50:09
... aren't we always at least a few steps away from "live" when we listen to recordings at home? What we get is different, yet similar.I know a guy who listened through the keyhole of the jazz club door. Even then, the sound was somewhat degraded.
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Yes you are right
But my point is that we can actually have a better sound at home that at a real concert
If you get a very good recording of what the mixer feeds to the concert speakers you can have a better digital source, amp, speakers and acoustic at home
If instead we are comparing the real sound of a piano with its recording i think that the result can be still enjoyable but not at the same level
Of course
When i go to a jazz concert i see always mics to capture the sound
There is always an amplification, and not the best of what is available i guess
Pro amps and speakers, not audiophile
Kind regards,
bg
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I agree that listening to recorded sound on a good system in the comfort and privacy of one's own home sounds and feels better than a poorly organized or poorly engineered live concert does. It's no fun sitting next to certain types of noisy and obnoxious people while listening to pro sound "squawker" speakers in a smelly venue with bad acoustics.But, when everything is "right" you can't beat the live performance. Even the most expensive playback systems pale in comparison to live sound, at least when the key aspects of live sound are the consideration.
There is, however, the aspect of listening that is sometimes called "listenability" to consider. For me, the word "listenable" alludes to how easy it is to forget about the source of the music in order to concentrate on the music itself. The better home playback systems (especially good headphone systems) sometimes surpass the listenability of the best live events, I think, if for no other reason than there might be fewer distractions in the proper home environment.
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Hi and thanks for the very interesting advice
I think that what you mention " when everything is "right" you can't beat the live performance " is also the key question
When everything is "right" at a live performance ?
I can guess that the best jazz clubs have a very good acoustic and playback systems
So in the end i agree that nothing can beat the real thing
But the interest around music reproduction means that reproduced music can be a very nice substitute
As you very well say, absolutely " It's no fun sitting next to certain types of noisy and obnoxious people while listening to pro sound "squawker" speakers in a smelly venue with bad acoustics "
Just think of the feeling to have a jazz group playing only for you in your home when you want
In my experience the very big issue is the listening room.
I am sure that the only way to get a good sound is a dedicated and treated room ...
And unfortunately i cannot afford it at the moment.
I bought a cheap and nice system some years ago.
The sound at home was only a very bad copy of the one in the shop listening room ... a very poor copy.
And the system was exactly the same up to the last cable.
What a difference ...
Thanks again.
Kind regards,
bg
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