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In Reply to: RE: better than speakers posted by mbnx01 on July 22, 2014 at 21:23:42
You hear everything in the recording.
EVERYTHING.
Listening to the Beatles albums... you hear how brilliant those arrangements were.
You want to hear DSOTM, really hear it? Headphones.
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Pass.
...I only listen to high end earbuds (Shure SE530s) with my iPod.
They lack the wide dynamic range, movement of air, depth and stereo imaging I get with my big system in my treated room.
But they do provide a different perspective and I always hear something new in the music.
Mike:
I am a musician and cannot listen to music without singing or humming, etc. With earphones, any sound I make confounds what is coming through the headphones. I can occasionally listen to something but not for very long.I also sense music with other parts of my body that earphones cannot touch. Percussion, for example.
Mike
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Not quite...With headphones, I do notice things I've never noticed before. The downside to this upside is that I must also learn to ignore some things I've never been forced to ignore before.
The sonic details of "direct sound" are to be heard when listing with headphones. The resonant chambers of headphone earcups do provide a bit of indirect sound in pantomime form, but this is unlike the mixture you get with stereo loudspeakers. That said, I'm convinced that there are a few types of sounds and feelings that are more successfully reproduced by loudspeakers. As if certain subtle ambient clues are lost or un-created during the translation to headphones, loudspeakers sometimes have the edge in detail reproduction.
Eliminating the room with headphones does let me hear the direct sound of the recording. But, because the room has been eliminated, the headphone prevents me from hearing details that *only present themselves in open-air acoustics*. A truly good loudspeaker system presents direct sound and reflected sound in optimal balance for an individual listener. The secondary reflections in a loudspeaker system are in fact part of the glory of the loudspeaker system. An agreeable mixture of sound works to re-create sonic details while providing a sense of "air" in the loudspeaker system. Binaural recordings greatly help to restore this particular type of realism to headphone listening, but really good binaural recordings have been a rarity in the marketplace so far.
All along the circular, measured steps on the porch of the Pantheon I see headphones sitting just below the loudspeakers. Things might change in the future as headphone recordings and headphone systems become better and more sophisticated.
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...but I'm just too damn tired of DSOTM.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
You want to hear DSOTM, really hear it? Headphones
No headphones will ever give you the sheer visceral impact of listening to DSOTM (or anything else for that matter) on a good pair of loudspeakers. Sure, you can "hear" a lot of things with headphones, but you can't fully experience the music the way you can with good loudspeakers.
I like my headphones (Alpha Dogs) and also love my speakers (Maggie 3.6's)
The presentation is totally different The speakers spread the sound out in front of you just like you would hear live music. The sound from headphones is in your head although this can very with different recordings. This is not a knock of headphones but they are a different experience from speakers
Alan
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