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In Reply to: RE: Both........... posted by Todd Krieger on April 09, 2014 at 23:32:50
Hi,
i start from the consideration that many people consider tapes the best medium.
So measuring their dynamic range would be a good reference for digital medium requirements.
Moreover i wonder which is the max available dynamic range with vinyl.
I am very curious because also vinyl has many supporters.
I do not think that LPs have more than let's say 96dB dynamic range
Found this ... i do not know it it is true or not, as usual" •Live music can have a dynamic range as high as 100-120 dB (very loud!)
•Compact discs have a maximum dynamic range of 96dB
•An LP has a dynamic range of approximately 65dB
•Magnetic tape (cassette, reel to reel) has a dynamic range of approximately 55-60 dB "If this is true the problem with cd does not seem the dynamic range
Personally i prefer 48k instead of 44.1k
Because i listened to some digital audio tapes and they were fantastic.
I am trying to convince a friend who has bought a really fine Pioneer Dat to make some good copies of high quality LPs for comparison tests.
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 04/10/14Follow Ups:
At least, that was the published specification. That, with a flat frequency response made it a great machine for very high quality home use with a quarter track 3-3/4 & 7 ips or the half track 7 and 15 ips for two track final mixdown.
And if the sound fails to convince is not for a limited dynamic range
It must be something else.
By the way i would like to have at least the 48k sampling rate
It is just a better feeling
Thanks a lot.
Kind regards,
bg
While the specified dynamic range for CD is way higher than cassette or LP, who would doubt that! - by around 20 dB or so - the *perceived* dynamic range is frequently actually a lot less!! 3 dB is double so 20 dB represents what? One hundred times more?!! Two orders of magnitude! Can my math really be right? LOL Am I the only one who finds off the shelf CDs thin-sounding, like papier mâché, lifeless and blah, like a cheap radio?
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Too many pebbles and clocks in the room can make CDs sound that way. Remove them all, listen for yourself...
If you take "purist" recordings made with minimal manipulation the quality is very good indeed. It depends on the shelf you buy your CDs from.
I heard spectacular recordings from Labels dedicated to achieve the best quality. Very good indeed.
Still i notice that pros for DAT preferred a higher sampling rate.
I am sure they did some kind of test and found the cd format 44.1k sampling rate not enough.
But 16/48 is a very good combination, on the basis of some DAT listening i did.
I do not like tape in general. They are a pain to use.
Kind regards,
bg
Edits: 04/10/14
Once we get by the manufacturing and playback system issues I think it's clear CDs are capable of far better performance than LPs.And I don't believe any technical discussion is required to hear the obvious. People seem to expect and like the colorations/distortions of vinyl.
Give me rhythm or give me death!
Edits: 04/10/14
You've hit the nail square on the head.
Ever since digital recording came about engineers seem to be desperate to get the general analog 'filth' back by means of adding distortion, using valve mic pre's, tape emulation plug ins etc.
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