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In Reply to: RE: Read the link in E-Stat's post... posted by mkuller on April 07, 2014 at 15:15:47
The test E-Stat's link refers to is from a few years ago, the OP's just happened under differing conditions.
BUT further investigation shows that two of the participants in the most recent test play Curtin made violins which invalidates the test for me. The test also has nothing to do with differentiating which is old and which is new but what are the players personal preferences. If you play an instrument and it has a familiarity then it may bias your choice.
So I redact my prior post, the test it flawed
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Different tests? Details, details to mkuller.
Both tests were preference tests and produced data. However, there are many uncontrolled variables. The test did not support the expectation that Stradivarius sound better, but it does not actually disprove it, either.
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"A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser
Nothing can be tested, nothing...
No wonder we find ourselves in a society with a great number of people refusing to get their children vaccinated.
Nothing can be tested, nothing...
Gee, I guess you've just invalidated my Science degree, I'll send notice to PSU.
And now for something completely different.....
No wonder we find ourselves in a society with a great number of people refusing to get their children vaccinated.
Those people are as stupid as that non sequitur.
"If you play an instrument..."
That in and of itself shoots down arguments against dbt. Reviewers have literally weeks, if not months to familiarize themselves with, and write of their findings. Why can't the same person use his / her own notes and be able to identify what amp is driving a certain speaker under a future test, site unseen?
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I recall an article about a certain Strad that mentioned that one of the strings was bad. That if it wasn't played a certain way, it would let you know it. As a self proclaimed F1 guy you must admit that a late model Vette just might outperform that persnickety 2 million dollar early 60s Ferrari.
your example is extraneous.
My GTI outperforms my uncle's 308
A digital Timex is more accurate then a vintage Rolex
$400 technics sp10 circa 1980 crushes the 10x$ VPI it replaced (sorry Mat) both subjectively and objectively
And just for the F1 ref.
Bahrain 2004 fast lap 1:30.252 ten years later 1:37.020
It's like comparing apples to penguins.....
After the first flawed test, it should have been obvious that a number of rules and procedures needed to be revised or changed. However, there is no indication that basic procedures ever were revised for this latest test. I'm going to ignore the results of both tests, at least until more detailed info is made available.I think I might smell a marketing scheme...
I predict that "new" and "definitive" test results will continue to appear throughout the next 20 years or so to "prove" (of course) that modern instruments can sound just as good as the old antique ones that we will soon be forced to shelve (The older ones might be nearing the end of their usable lifespan!).
Edits: 04/07/14 04/07/14 04/07/14
I think I might smell a marketing scheme...
Wouldn't it be nicer to get 400k rather then 40k for a violin ;-)
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