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In Reply to: RE: here is the one i had designed for me..... posted by mikel on August 28, 2012 at 05:31:54
Never have I heard a room such as yours, or any well designed.
I see you have a diffuser in the middle of your wall behind the speakers. Do you still get a solid central image (when recorded as such) or is it diffuse?
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i get an excellent center image. it is very focused and has natural, real life, front to back depth. and the whole soundstage is wide, deep and high. musical elements seem to fully develop and retain all the natural energy. the room, speakers and reproduction chain disappear.
but it's not just the center diffuser. it's a number of things contributing.
(1) the triple stack of (2'x 2') RPG Skyline diffusers between the speakers does help to have coherent and focused center image. the Skylines are a very agressive type diffuser designed to be in the most critical first reflection spots. (2) the Auralex T-Fusors on the side-walls and in the ceiling wells also help to a smaller degree in image focus by eliminating slap echo from the sidewalls. these T-Fusors are mostly reflective, it's important to not absorb much or you change the tonal character of the room. (3) every surface in the front of the room is reflective, including the hardwood floor, in order to retain as much energy as possible. (4) the angled panels in the ceiling eliminate any first reflection from the ceiling but allow musical energy to be reflected back into the room. (5) the built-in sidewall half round diffusers eliminate any slap echo at the listening position but still don't absorb any musical energy. (6) the shape of the room avoids any facing reflective surfaces and the large size and live-ness allows for excellent note decay and bloom but all the diffusion keeps things from getting confused.
(7) speaker set-up, location and toe-in/toe-out is important, and (8) high resolution electronics, the best possible sources, and an Equi=tech 10WQ isolation transformer all do their part to keep the noise low and have maximum musical information to allow the room to strut it's stuff.
i've not heard a room that comes close to the imaging and spacial rendering of this room.
the design philosophy of the room is to retain musical energy. it's designed like a concert hall; the front is shaped like a stage, the rear and ceiling are diffusive and the carpeted rear 2/3rds of the floor is like an audience. that is the idea. and it works too.
mikel
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I understand it is the total package which gets you there, but find points 3 & 4 especially interesting and helpful:
(3) every surface in the front of the room is reflective, including the hardwood floor, in order to retain as much energy as possible. (4) the angled panels in the ceiling eliminate any first reflection from the ceiling but allow musical energy to be reflected back into the room.
I was surprised to see that even the windows were not treated.
Thank you for sharing! Gives me something to dream about :^)
thanks for the kind words.
as far as the windows; i actually have inserts for those which i used for awhile. then i did some listening tests and found that i could not hear any difference in or out. the windows are small enough and high enough that their effect is not audible. and i live in the mountains and the windows look out to a ridge and i enjoy watching nature as i listen.
cheers,
mikel
Heavens to betsy, Mikel! THAT is some room! Equipment looks to perform to its best where you have your speaks. I have some very fine classical recordings from the 60's and 70's from labels like Soundstream, Syrinx, BIS, et all that I would LOVE to listen to in there instead of my wee 12x15x8' room.
thanks Jim, for the nice comments.
my previous room was smallish (18'x 12'x 10.5') and i loved the immediacy and intimacy of that room. it took me 5-6 years in the new room before i was able to reach and surpass those aspects of the smaller room. so enjoy the strengths of the more intimate setting.
if you ever come up to the Seattle area from Texas you would be most welcome to listen to some of those Classical Lps in my system.
cheers,
mikel
Thank you, Mikel, for your warm reply. If ever I am, I will. My system works nicely for me. I think I know what you mean.
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