- Sparking not wanted in a hospital, also do you want to be unpluged? - Steyr 06:50:52 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: "cheap and realy all you need in a receptacle." posted by Metralla on October 28, 2009 at 14:22:16
So hospital grade outlets are built to a higher standard they hold plugs better produce little sparks which isnt so fun when on oxygen.This sparking from poor conections produces RF and who wants that on your plug. Now you know and knowings 1/2 the battle.
- A hospital grade receipticle is usually built to a higher standard ... - samtellig 16:34:42 10/28/09
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- In Reply to: RE: "cheap and realy all you need in a receptacle." posted by Metralla on October 28, 2009 at 14:22:16
... than what you get from the bin at Lowe's or Home Depot. This is not hype.
- Indeed, Sam.... - alan m. kafton 21:03:47 10/28/09
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- In Reply to: RE: A hospital grade receipticle is usually built to a higher standard ... posted by samtellig on October 28, 2009 at 16:34:42
The thermoplastic is such that it withstands higher impact, and the contacts are usually bright-nickel plated so there is never any tarnishing. Different requirements for hospital/medical use.
But the duplex shown is no match for a Wattgate, Furutech, or Oyaide in terms of sonic performance and musical enjoyment.
- If the electron's can make it through the circuit breaker, - gtfsr 06:45:40 10/31/09
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- In Reply to: RE: Indeed, Sam.... posted by alan m. kafton on October 28, 2009 at 21:03:47
with it's 2mm braided wire for handling 30 amps and a 2 4mm unpolished
dot contacts and all that galvanized steel within the panel box plus the really impressive metal within the $3.00 breaker. Add in as much as 100' of Romex wire why go bonkers over an outlet?
So long as it holds the blades tight with it's extra inch of copper what is going to do?
- I disagree - Steyr 07:00:31 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: Indeed, Sam.... posted by alan m. kafton on October 28, 2009 at 21:03:47
The contact is just a good as the over priced aimed at the audiophile units. I also find wattgate plugs that are very similar to ones for heavy industry use on extention cords. These to are cheap. Branded for audiophiles use add a wee bit oh gold,toss in freezer add flashy cover you get audiophile products. Oh and add a few $100s to the cost. Fine if you got much cash but system performance can be enhanced with this cash thats more important to end result than a receipticle which one only needs to spend $6 US on to get a improved version.
- Of course you do.... - alan m. kafton 10:24:30 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: I disagree posted by Steyr on October 29, 2009 at 07:00:31
Contact is only one parameter. Conductivity is another. Substrate quality, along with plating materials are equally important. Which, of course, you don't consider whatsoever.
"add a wee bit oh gold, toss in freezer"...."add a few $100s to the cost"? Puh-leeze. Throwing out these glib, inaccurate and useless phrases only limits your credibility. You see the forest, not the trees.
And you never admit to listening and comparing any outlets, which is critical to this or any discussion on the merits. Merely throwing around pejorative cosmetic references won't buy anyone a cup of coffee.
- You jump to a wrong conclusion that I havent listened to or own audiophile recepticles - Steyr 11:06:56 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: Of course you do.... posted by alan m. kafton on October 29, 2009 at 10:24:30
I have many swo-xxx audiophile outlets about. Have some PS audio in one room, in others mis hand me downs from a audiophile friend hes into the hype folks like you pass about. I also have a dedicated 200amp service just for audio use ea outlet is 20amp direct to breaker box also have my own main line and transformer off such line. But I have nothing to prove to you and have no bias toward selling these products as you seem too. The lack of credibility is all on you bud. You see only the cash you can make, not the truth. That you dont need to spend $100s for a good hi-quality outlet. This pic 4 ya
- Comparing outlets is rather difficult - Mike K 10:37:54 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: Of course you do.... posted by alan m. kafton on October 29, 2009 at 10:24:30
as it is necessary to have duplicate electrical circuits (ideally)
or at least one outlet of each type on the same circuit. How many
people can or will do either? Unless you do one of these, and do
some sort of reasonable dbt or sbt, I maintain you have no basis
for comparison since hearing "memory" is not very reliable (to say the
least). And of course, there's always the risk that, if you do run
an actual comparison ala the above, you will prefer the cheaper
outlet! How bad would that be???
Mike
- No it isn't. - alan m. kafton 12:03:26 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: Comparing outlets is rather difficult posted by Mike K on October 29, 2009 at 10:37:54
It's simple to make up a power strip or box with various outlets wired with 12-gauge Romex. I did this 12 years ago when first comparing Hubbell's. Plug in, plug out. Easy.
- But how do you know if the power strip or box has a sonic signature of its own?(nt) - samtellig 15:19:07 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: No it isn't. posted by alan m. kafton on October 29, 2009 at 12:03:26
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- The power strip or box.... - alan m. kafton 15:55:24 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: But how do you know if the power strip or box has a sonic signature of its own?(nt) posted by samtellig on October 29, 2009 at 15:19:07
....is the constant, as is the Romex wiring (which pretty much replicates what's inside most people houses), and in fact replicates what was in mine when I did the tests.
Therefore, comparing the outlets becomes comparing the outlets, nothing less, nothing more.
- One of these days you'll electrocute yourself.(nt) - samtellig 17:49:45 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: The power strip or box.... posted by alan m. kafton on October 29, 2009 at 15:55:24
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- Won't happen....the Oyaide plugs and receptacles I use are well insulated. :--) [nt] - alan m. kafton 18:01:40 10/29/09
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- In Reply to: RE: One of these days you'll electrocute yourself.(nt) posted by samtellig on October 29, 2009 at 17:49:45
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- Won't happen....the Oyaide plugs and receptacles I use are well insulated. :--) [nt] - alan m. kafton 18:01:40 10/29/09
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- One of these days you'll electrocute yourself.(nt) - samtellig 17:49:45 10/29/09
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- The power strip or box.... - alan m. kafton 15:55:24 10/29/09
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- But how do you know if the power strip or box has a sonic signature of its own?(nt) - samtellig 15:19:07 10/29/09
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- No it isn't. - alan m. kafton 12:03:26 10/29/09
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- You jump to a wrong conclusion that I havent listened to or own audiophile recepticles - Steyr 11:06:56 10/29/09
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- Of course you do.... - alan m. kafton 10:24:30 10/29/09
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- If the electron's can make it through the circuit breaker, - gtfsr 06:45:40 10/31/09
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- Indeed, Sam.... - alan m. kafton 21:03:47 10/28/09
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