- Posted by Steyr (M) on October 28, 2009 at 11:41:05
In Reply to: RE: Another example of why let the facts get in the way of a good story posted by Myles B. Astor on October 28, 2009 at 05:08:24
cheap and realy all you need in a receptacle.
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In Reply to: RE: Another example of why let the facts get in the way of a good story posted by Myles B. Astor on October 28, 2009 at 05:08:24
cheap and realy all you need in a receptacle.
and you know this ... how? Because it has the word "HOSPITAL" listed? That word seems to have attracted inmate samtellig too. I wonder how he knows.
Regards,
Geoff
So hospital grade outlets are built to a higher standard they hold plugs better produce little sparks which isnt so fun when on oxygen.This sparking from poor conections produces RF and who wants that on your plug. Now you know and knowings 1/2 the battle.
... than what you get from the bin at Lowe's or Home Depot. This is not hype.
The thermoplastic is such that it withstands higher impact, and the contacts are usually bright-nickel plated so there is never any tarnishing. Different requirements for hospital/medical use.
But the duplex shown is no match for a Wattgate, Furutech, or Oyaide in terms of sonic performance and musical enjoyment.
with it's 2mm braided wire for handling 30 amps and a 2 4mm unpolished
dot contacts and all that galvanized steel within the panel box plus the really impressive metal within the $3.00 breaker. Add in as much as 100' of Romex wire why go bonkers over an outlet?
So long as it holds the blades tight with it's extra inch of copper what is going to do?
The contact is just a good as the over priced aimed at the audiophile units. I also find wattgate plugs that are very similar to ones for heavy industry use on extention cords. These to are cheap. Branded for audiophiles use add a wee bit oh gold,toss in freezer add flashy cover you get audiophile products. Oh and add a few $100s to the cost. Fine if you got much cash but system performance can be enhanced with this cash thats more important to end result than a receipticle which one only needs to spend $6 US on to get a improved version.
Contact is only one parameter. Conductivity is another. Substrate quality, along with plating materials are equally important. Which, of course, you don't consider whatsoever.
"add a wee bit oh gold, toss in freezer"...."add a few $100s to the cost"? Puh-leeze. Throwing out these glib, inaccurate and useless phrases only limits your credibility. You see the forest, not the trees.
And you never admit to listening and comparing any outlets, which is critical to this or any discussion on the merits. Merely throwing around pejorative cosmetic references won't buy anyone a cup of coffee.
I have many swo-xxx audiophile outlets about. Have some PS audio in one room, in others mis hand me downs from a audiophile friend hes into the hype folks like you pass about. I also have a dedicated 200amp service just for audio use ea outlet is 20amp direct to breaker box also have my own main line and transformer off such line. But I have nothing to prove to you and have no bias toward selling these products as you seem too. The lack of credibility is all on you bud. You see only the cash you can make, not the truth. That you dont need to spend $100s for a good hi-quality outlet. This pic 4 ya
as it is necessary to have duplicate electrical circuits (ideally)
or at least one outlet of each type on the same circuit. How many
people can or will do either? Unless you do one of these, and do
some sort of reasonable dbt or sbt, I maintain you have no basis
for comparison since hearing "memory" is not very reliable (to say the
least). And of course, there's always the risk that, if you do run
an actual comparison ala the above, you will prefer the cheaper
outlet! How bad would that be???
Mike
It's simple to make up a power strip or box with various outlets wired with 12-gauge Romex. I did this 12 years ago when first comparing Hubbell's. Plug in, plug out. Easy.
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....is the constant, as is the Romex wiring (which pretty much replicates what's inside most people houses), and in fact replicates what was in mine when I did the tests.
Therefore, comparing the outlets becomes comparing the outlets, nothing less, nothing more.
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Its not some kind of magic when they all use the same copper etc. For referance (A-grade copper cathode is of 99.999% copper in sheets that are 1 cm thick, and approximately 1 meter square weighing approximately 200 pounds. It is a true commodity, deliverable to and tradeable upon the metal exchanges in New York (COMEX), London (London Metals Exchange) and Shanghai (Shanghai Futures Exchange). Often copper cathode is traded upon the exchanges indirectly via warrants, options, or swap contracts such that the majority of copper is traded upon the LME/COMEX/SFE but delivery is achieved indirectly and at remove from the physical warehouses themselves.
The chemical specification for electrolytic grade copper is ASTM B 115-00 (a standard that specifies the purity and maximum electrical resistivity of the product). So are all these cables featuring copper purer than 99.999% that you get in any copper wire(They can not make it purer) Its all the same mann
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he did mention power cords or did I read this wrong.
the conductor material is the only variable. What a pretty thought.
Why do you believe the conductor is the only variable???? I sure dont. Why is that such a pretty thought? Are you seeing hearing colors again? damn 1960s wrecked the lot of ya.
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